RE: META: Dishonest debate (was "cluster bombs")

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Sun Jun 15 2003 - 14:23:10 MDT

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    Dehede011@aol.com wrote,
    > Harvey, the problem is that we have been hearing that explanation
    > since the Vietnamese war. It reduces to a problem in statistics.
    > If you have came down on one side fifteen times in a row what are
    > the odds you will favor that same side the next time. After a
    > while regardless of how you explain it you are selecting the U. S.
    > to criticize and giving comfort to its enemies by your silence.
    > All in all your explanation is sophisticated but not persuasive.
    > Ron h.

    No, this is not the problem! I HAVEN'T supported the Vietnamese, China,
    Cuba, Iraq, Iran, Saudis, Osama, Saddam, Communists, Socialists, fascism, al
    Quaeda, the 911 hijackers, terrorists, or the Hate America First crowd. I
    am merely a Democrat who dislikes George Bush's politics. How does that
    make me an enemy.

    You are using binary thinking to say that I can't complain about George Bush
    or anything he does without being an enemy combatant. This is wrong. Look
    back through the list archives. I have never defended any of these enemies.
    It is a stretch to claim that criticizing George Bush or questioning the
    government makes me an enemy of the state. I have never given comfort to
    the enemies of America, and it is a damn lie for you to claim that I have.

    Please put up or shut up. Go through the archives and point out any
    specific statement that constitutes giving comfort to the enemy. Or else
    SHUT THE HELL UP! These baseless accusations are just plain slanderous. You
    have no reason to accuse me or most of the other fine list participants of
    being a traitor, terrorist, or enemy supporter.

    --
    Harvey Newstrom, CISM, CISSP, IAM, IBMCP, GSEC
    Certified InfoSec Manager, Certified IS Security Pro, NSA-certified
    InfoSec Assessor, IBM-certified Security Consultant, SANS-cert GSEC
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