RE: The Iraq war was extropian? Re: [Iraq] The real reason for the war

From: Spike (spike66@attbi.com)
Date: Sat Jun 14 2003 - 21:06:11 MDT

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    "Paul Grant" < <mailto:shade999@optonline.net> shade999@optonline.net>

     ... And just to reel this all back in, the only duty a muslim has to a
    non-muslim
    is to inform him that there is one god, named allah and mohammed was his

    messenger. After that, any failure to convert (ergo recognize the one
    true god)
    is a failure on your part, and you are judged accordingly. Anyone who
    has not
    heard the call of Islam, is not responsible for his lack of recognition
    for the message,
    and is judged based on his actions, and not any of the specific
    performances required
    that form the five pillars of Islam (e.g. how kind they've been). ...
     
    I see.
     
    Paul, you seem to be up to speed on Islam, so perhaps you
    can enlighten me on a question that has puzzled me for nearly two
    years. Given the above, please explain the line of reasoning that
    led a group of devout Muslim believers to conclude that the people who
    worked in the world trade center were guilty of some heinous act that
    made
    them deserving of a horrifying death. Were there not those among
    the New Yorkers who had never heard of Islam or the prophet? Were there
    not those among them who couldn't find Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran,
    Palestine or
    Israel on a map? What basic doctrine of the Muslim faith can be quoted
    that leads to the conclusion that these people were somehow responsible
    for Israel's actions toward the Palestinians, or for the Islamic world's
    general
    failings, and therefore should be murdered? The Washington Pentagon
    attack might make some vague brutal sense in the allies-of-Israel
    business,
    but how are those who worked in the WTC in New York to be blamed?
    Surrah and verse numbers please.
     
    There's your religion of "violence, religious suppression and
    terrorism".
     
    So you say. By what line of reasoning do they conclude that they have
    the right to judge me for failing to worship their imaginary friend?
    How have
    they the right to judge *anyone* for failing to recognize their
    imaginary
    friend? Such a religion is inherently dangerous.
     
    My advice, leave them alone, they're on a *completely* different trip
    than
    westerners.
     
    I see. What *completely * different trip were they on when they decided
    to
    take a plane trip to New York? How do you suggest we prevent such
    *completely* different trips in the future?
     
    spike



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