From: Rafal Smigrodzki (rafal@smigrodzki.org)
Date: Sat Jun 14 2003 - 14:24:59 MDT
Just think - the US have less freedom than the unlamented CCCP
Rafal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Rand Smigrodzki" <karen@smigrodzki.org>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: How best to spend US$200 billion?
> The question of the right to secede has been answered in Constitutional
law
> since 1869 in which the US Supreme Court held that attempts to secede from
> the Union are unconstitutional; ratification of the Constitution was held
to
> be a waiver of the right to secede.
>
> In regard to what Robert Bradbury mentioned:
>
> Article 72, Chapter 8 of the USSR Constitution of October 7, 1977, Novosti
> Press Agency Publishing House, Moscow (1977).
>
> Article 72: "Each Union Republic shall retain the right freely to secede
> from the USSR."
>
> The Soviet Socialist Republics which did secede from the USSR upon its
> disintegration are: Ukraine, Latvia, Lithunia, Estonia, Azerbaijan,
Moldava,
> Kazakhstan, Georgia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Krygyzstan, Armenia,
Belarus,
> Uzbekistan.
>
>
>
> Karen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury@aeiveos.com>
> To: <extropians@extropy.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:08 AM
> Subject: RE: How best to spend US$200 billion? RE: `twisted ethics
prevalent
> onthe extropy board'
>
>
> >
> > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Paul Grant wrote:
> >
> > > You mean like the US federal government chose not to acknowledge
> > > the southern states right to succede? How is that any different?
> >
> > Now this raises an interesting question in my mind. Does anyone
> > know if there is a "proper" process for U.S. states to succede?
> > Or did this just get overlooked in the process of writing the
> > constitution? I.e. you can join, but you cannot leave.
> > If the U.S. constitution does not have a "leaving" process,
> > are there any countries that do? The only examples I can
> > think of (where splits were peacefully agreed upon) are
> > Czechoslovakia and perhaps some of the autonomous regions
> > in the former USSR.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
>
> Karen Rand Smigrodzki
>
> All truth passes through three stages.
> First, it is ridiculed.
> Second, it is violently opposed.
> Third, it is accepted as being self-
> evident.
> -Arthur Schopenhauer
>
>
>
>
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