Re: How best to spend US$200 billion?

From: Rafal Smigrodzki (rafal@smigrodzki.org)
Date: Sat Jun 14 2003 - 14:24:59 MDT

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    Just think - the US have less freedom than the unlamented CCCP

    Rafal

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Karen Rand Smigrodzki" <karen@smigrodzki.org>
    To: <extropians@extropy.org>
    Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:32 PM
    Subject: Re: How best to spend US$200 billion?

    > The question of the right to secede has been answered in Constitutional
    law
    > since 1869 in which the US Supreme Court held that attempts to secede from
    > the Union are unconstitutional; ratification of the Constitution was held
    to
    > be a waiver of the right to secede.
    >
    > In regard to what Robert Bradbury mentioned:
    >
    > Article 72, Chapter 8 of the USSR Constitution of October 7, 1977, Novosti
    > Press Agency Publishing House, Moscow (1977).
    >
    > Article 72: "Each Union Republic shall retain the right freely to secede
    > from the USSR."
    >
    > The Soviet Socialist Republics which did secede from the USSR upon its
    > disintegration are: Ukraine, Latvia, Lithunia, Estonia, Azerbaijan,
    Moldava,
    > Kazakhstan, Georgia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Krygyzstan, Armenia,
    Belarus,
    > Uzbekistan.
    >
    >
    >
    > Karen
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury@aeiveos.com>
    > To: <extropians@extropy.org>
    > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:08 AM
    > Subject: RE: How best to spend US$200 billion? RE: `twisted ethics
    prevalent
    > onthe extropy board'
    >
    >
    > >
    > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Paul Grant wrote:
    > >
    > > > You mean like the US federal government chose not to acknowledge
    > > > the southern states right to succede? How is that any different?
    > >
    > > Now this raises an interesting question in my mind. Does anyone
    > > know if there is a "proper" process for U.S. states to succede?
    > > Or did this just get overlooked in the process of writing the
    > > constitution? I.e. you can join, but you cannot leave.
    > > If the U.S. constitution does not have a "leaving" process,
    > > are there any countries that do? The only examples I can
    > > think of (where splits were peacefully agreed upon) are
    > > Czechoslovakia and perhaps some of the autonomous regions
    > > in the former USSR.
    > >
    > > Robert
    > >
    > >
    >
    > Karen Rand Smigrodzki
    >
    > All truth passes through three stages.
    > First, it is ridiculed.
    > Second, it is violently opposed.
    > Third, it is accepted as being self-
    > evident.
    > -Arthur Schopenhauer
    >
    >
    >
    >



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