Re: PLUTO, Our Future Home

From: Party of Citizens (citizens@vcn.bc.ca)
Date: Sun May 25 2003 - 18:50:43 MDT

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    OK, scrap Pluto. Let's assemble all the rocks in the Asteroid Belt instead
    by moving them together with Space Tugs. We create a new planet. As we do
    so, we save this planet from accidental collision and we mine the
    asteroids which will make every human on earth a multi-billionaire if we
    can keep mining costs at terrestrial levels. The tailings are expelled
    from Planet X by catapult and that gives us extra thrust to make Planet X
    for a spin.
    POC

    On Sun, 25 May 2003, Technotranscendence wrote:

    > On Sunday, May 25, 2003 4:33 AM Anders Sandberg asa@nada.kth.se wrote:
    > >> NASA and USM are considering going out and moving smaller rocks in
    > >> the asteroid belt which may collide with earth. What is the biggest
    > rock
    > >> you think could be moved around by modern rockets?
    > >
    > > It is all a matter of how much time you take. Even a fireworks rocket
    > > can, if it fires long enough, impart enough delta-v on an object to
    > > change is orbit completely. Also, if you have plenty of lead time you
    > > can impart a small delta V into the object - the displacement will
    > grow
    > > at least linearly with time.
    >
    > Yep. Also, most of these rocks would be hit/pushed where it makes the
    > biggest impact: at apohelion (for the ones with noncircular orbits,
    > which means all of them, IIRC:).
    >
    > The big problem is not so much getting the right amount of energy to the
    > right spot -- a nuke would do fine in most cases -- but being able to
    > finely control the outcome. This requires more knowledge of asteroid
    > composition, shape, and structure. For example, if the asteroid in
    > question is more like a floating dirt pile, then it might harder to
    > manuever since it might break up under manipulation with most of the
    > fragments still heading where you don't want them -- even worse, the
    > fragments might be distributed over a larger range of impact sites. It
    > won't be like in that asteroid movie -- two chunks, but many thousands
    > of chunks, many of which might survive atmospheric entry or sweep Near
    > Earth Space of all spacecraft.
    >
    > To learn about asteroid composition and structure, perhaps the current
    > best way is to do more flybys, orbits, and landings -- many more, since
    > asteroids probably vary a lot. (Earthbound observations have certainly
    > led to a range of classifications that indicate differences in
    > composition and perhaps structure.) Such missions need not be high
    > cost, especially if we can get the SpaceWatch crowd to join efforts with
    > the would be asteroid mining people. They seem like natural allies, yet
    > I don't see them even talking to each other. (Sadly, inside space
    > activism circles, this sort of isolation between groups is typical.)
    >
    > Cheers!
    >
    > Dan
    > http://uweb.superlink.net/neptune/
    >
    >



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