Re: [wta-talk] Matrix Reloaded [SPOILERS!]

From: Brian Atkins (brian@posthuman.com)
Date: Sat May 17 2003 - 18:51:32 MDT

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    JAY DUGGER wrote:
    > On Fri, 16 May 2003 11:05:31 -0500
    > Brian Atkins <brian@posthuman.com> wrote:
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    > Still SPOILER space
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    >> of the audio tracks in Reloaded), Neo has the hardware in his head to
    >> allow contact with the Matrix (or at least nearby machines)
    >> wirelessly. This explains his ability at the end, and maybe his dream
    >> at the beginning...
    >>
    > Augmented reality doesn't seem to exist in the setting. The gate traffic
    > control scene would make a perfect spot to use it, but instead it relies
    > on virtual reality. AR seems very foreign to most. Did Minority Report
    > show any? Perhaps the story saves it for later revelations.

    I'm not talking about AR at all... what I'm saying is that since we
    already know that anyone born in the Matrix already has tons of hardware
    built into them designed specifically to facilitate interaction with the
    machine systems, it isn't so far fetched to consider the idea that Neo
    either figured out, stole from Smith's code, or was "handed" the ability
    to use some of this hardware in his body to tap wirelessly into the
    Matrix or at least nearby machine hardware like the sentinels.

    >
    >> Why would he suddenly get access to this ability right when he needed
    >> it? I favor the conspiracy theory that someone is helping him... just
    >> like how knowledge can be downloaded by training programs, and like
    >> how Smith's data was downloaded into Bane, I think someone is feeding
    >> new software into Neo at certain points... once when he died in the
    >> first movie, and here again at some point after he left the architect,
    >> or perhaps earlier in the movie- perhaps when he almost got taken over
    >> by Smith. There already is prior evidence that when they trade code
    >> they get new abilities.
    >
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    > See John Barnes' Kaliedoscope Century, Candle, and The Sky So Big and
    > Black, for aggressive machine intelligences running on human minds.
    > If the character gets new software fed into him, this seems to support
    > the idea he exists within another simulation. Hmm...do we need a word to
    > describe simulation indistuinguishable from reality?

    I don't think it supports the simulation argument at all. Like I said,
    we already know from the first movie that the extensive hardware
    embedded in all Matrix-born individuals gives their brain the ability to
    learn new abilities very rapidly ("training programs"). Essentially, new
    abilities can be downloaded into them. I see no reason to think that
    this couldn't be extended to the point where the software downloaded to
    them could completely take over their mind like Smith does. This doesn't
    require simulation or something magical, it is all doable using the very
    advanced hardware already in their heads.

    >> seen for Revolutions it appears that all of the action is focused on
    >> the continuing sentinel war combined with some action still going on
    >> in the now-crashing (apparently a software crash of this magnitude
    >> takes something like 24 hrs of virtual time :-) Matrix.
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    > I've seen no trailers for the next movie.
    >

    There is one after the end of the credits, and there also is a somewhat
    different one you can download now from various places on the Net which
    comes from the videogame that just came out.

    Did you see my other message about the fact that they also announced a
    separate game for next year that is explicitly stated to take place both
    in the Matrix AND after the events of the movies? This does not seem to
    support your hypothesis.

    -- 
    Brian Atkins
    Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
    http://www.singinst.org/
    


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