Plato's big lie

From: Damien Broderick (damienb@unimelb.edu.au)
Date: Sat May 17 2003 - 01:34:22 MDT

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    Lee Corbin quotes and comments:

    >Mike Wiik wrote
    >
    >> [William Pfaff IHT in <The long reach of Leo Strauss> wrote]
    >> > Leo Strauss argued that Platonic truth is too hard for people
    >> > to bear, and that the classical appeal to "virtue" as the
    >> > object of human endeavor is unattainable. Hence it has been
    >> > necessary to tell lies to people about the nature of political
    >> > reality.

    >But I do *not* credit that lying is a part of Neo-con, or even
    >Nazi philosophy. I simply have never heard of any ideology
    >that cynical.

    You've never read Plato, then, on the topic? I assume this is what Pfaff or
    Strauss was referring to: in THE REPUBLIC, he famously asked whether `we
    could contrive some magnificent myth that would carry conviction to our
    whole community' - a lie that might serve the greater truth of community.
    As I recall, this was one of Popper's reasons for despising Plato. It's a
    proposition entertainingly and scathingly examined in Vonnegut's fable
    CAT'S CRADLE.

    Damien Broderick



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