RE: "liberal media"

From: Lee Corbin (lcorbin@tsoft.com)
Date: Fri May 16 2003 - 13:25:36 MDT

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    Ron writes

    > you [Mike Wiik] also wrote, "He [Leo Strauss] also argued
    > that Platonic truth is too hard for people to bear, and
    > that the classical appeal to "virtue" as the object of
    > human endeavor is unattainable. Hence it has been
    > necessary to tell lies to people about the nature of
    > political reality. ***An elite recognizes the truth,
    > however, and keeps it to itself. This gives it insight,
    > and implicitly power that others do not possess.
    > This obviously is an important element in Strauss's
    > appeal to America's neoconservatives.***"

    > That is straight out of the Marx-Lenin playbook.
    > I guess after 150 years most people will have forgotten
    > it and you can pass it off as something new.

    I have to be skeptical that it can be documented that either
    the Marxists or the neo-cons have actually stated things
    like "truth is too hard for people to bear", and "it is
    necessary to tell lies".

    Now, I am pretty sure that Lenin did say that political
    power comes out of the barrel of a gun, and I'm pretty
    sure that Hitler did once say something about "the big
    lie"---but it would be nice to even have a concrete
    record of that.

    It's also true that the Marxists conceived of an elite
    in terms of "the vanguard of the proletariat", but I'm
    not too sure it went further---in a documentable fashion
    ---than that.

    Mike, in your reading, did you actually come across
    anything where neocons can be caught actually saying
    what they have been accused of, namely,

       "He [Leo Strauss] also argued that Platonic truth
       is too hard for people to bear, and that the
       classical appeal to "virtue" as the object of
       human endeavor is unattainable. Hence it has been
       necessary to tell lies to people about the nature
       of political reality."

    This claim has all the hallmarks of propaganda.

    And moreover, I deeply resent the claim that the conservative
    movement was unintelligent before "just lately". There were
    quite highly intelligent and perceptive people who called
    themselves conservative all the way back to the 1940s. It's
    just that they had no influence in the media, and for other
    reasons had a hard time getting the message out.

    Lee
     



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