RE: "Hysteria, Thy Name is SARS"

From: matus@matus1976.com
Date: Tue May 13 2003 - 12:28:38 MDT

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    > On Tuesday 13 May 2003 12:25 am, John K Clark wrote:
    > > "Samantha" <samantha@objectent.com> Wrote:
    > > > The same Micahel Fumento who touted the "myth of heterosexual
    > > > AIDS"? This man is a joke and I consider him personally culpable
    > > > for millions of needless deaths.
    > >
    > > What on Earth are you talking about? The man said 13 years ago that
    > > all the talk about AIDS breaking out in the heterosexual community
    > > was nonsense and he explained exactly why with facts and figures.
    > > Time has proven him absolutely correct. How can being right cause
    > > the death of millions?
    > >
    >
    >
    > Go to Africa and see that he was dead wrong.
    >
    > - samantha
    >

    I am still not seeing how or why you hold Michael Fumento morally culpable
    for all those deaths? Did you read this book? I havent, but reading
    comments on it I think you misjudged its content. Please explain your line
    of reasoning that holds Fumento direclty morally culpable for any deaths in
    Africa from AIDS. Was he over there plunging used needles into people, and
    forcing idiots with AIDS to rape virgins? Shall we blame him, and not the
    people who actually committ these heinous acts, or the corrupt tyrannical
    governments and warring fanctions that keep the people in africa ignorant,
    poor, unhealthy, and superstitious?

    Regards,

    Michael Dickey

    Some Amazon reviews -
    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0895267292/o/qid%3D912352745/sr%3D2-2
    /102-6980909-4836910

    Reviewer: Stephen M. St. Onge (see more about me) from Minneapolis, MN
    In the early days of the epidemic, it was rational to worry that AIDS might
    'explode through the general population.' Once the HIV virus was isolated,
    and a little known about how it spread, it became obvious that it just
    wasn't possible.

    Back in 1987, Michael Fumento wrote an article in Commentary which told why
    the general heterosexual population was not at signifigant risk for AIDS. He
    thought everyone would be glad to know that tens of millions of USAmericans
    would NOT die of an incurable disease associated with incredible suffering.

    Wrong.

    Lots of people wanted everyone at risk, or, at least, wanted everyone to
    believe that everyone was at risk, regardless of whether or not it was true.
    Fumento was denounced, harassed, and, lied about for stating that most AIDS
    victims would continue to be male homosexuals, IV drug users, women in a
    long term relationship with men in the first two groups, and children of
    women with HIV.

    The terrible thing is, that, by saying "Everyone is equally at risk," those
    at high risk didn't get the information they needed to protect themselves.
    Thousands died in the U.S. because they were deliberately misinformed about
    AIDS by those with political agendas to push -- agendas they weren't willing
    to argue for honestly.

    Thirteen years later, the story continues. Very few cases of AIDS are
    contracted heterosexually, except for the women sleeping regularly with
    bisexuals and drug users, and Fumento continues to be denounced. Even people
    whom came to agree with him, such as Gabriel Rotello, felt it necessary to
    say nasty things about him -- things that weren't true, by the way. And
    those whom WANT heterosexuals to be at high risk for AIDS continue to claim
    Fumento was wrong, as you can see by looking at some other reviews on this
    page.

    The one thing you won't see is facts to back up their assertions, for the
    simple reason that there are none.

    Read this book if you want a fascinating account of how the truth about a
    terrible disease was surpressed. And check out Fumento.com to find out the
    latest lies being spread about AIDS -- but only if you value the truth above
    political correctness.

    Next review -

    Book Review for: The Myth of Heterosexual Aids, Michael Fumento, 1990, 1993

    AIDS - The Truth Shall Educate You

    The Author: Every now and then a person comes along who lives a passion for
    finding and sharing truth. He is not satisfied with merely being well-fed
    and lying as needed to optimize his professional stature. He takes the
    risks, endures the persecution and keeps on fighting. Such is Michael
    Fumento.

    The Book: It would take no less than Fumento's 463 pages (with 47 pages of
    references and notes) to unravel over a decade of lies emanating from the
    practitioners of AIDS-transmitting behaviors, the media, and the most
    visible public health professionals. I can see that there is still a need
    for this message today when I talk with misled others, when I see misleading
    public transit AIDS ads and when I hear the news.

    Values: If I went into this book looking for a gay-bashing tirade I would
    not find it. If I approached it with the attitude of (some) Christians that
    homosexuals deserve to die because of their behavior, I would not find any
    support from Fumento. If I went into this book feeling 100% not responsible
    for the spread of this disease I would encounter explanation that we are all
    responsible at least indirectly because of our ignorance, gullibility and
    tolerance of titillating and shabby news-reporting. What is this guy's
    agenda, anyway? Fumento could just as easily have chosen issues other than
    AIDS (and he has done this in other articles and books) to further his
    agenda, which seems to be to expose the misdeeds of alarmists, the media and
    health professionals who have abused perfectly good science as they
    furthered their own careers at the expense of victims of disease and
    ignorance.

    Educational Value: I recommend this book for enhancing one's practical and
    logical understanding of: AIDS transmission physiology and psychology;
    AIDS-enabling co-morbidity; epidemiology; statistics; public health systems;
    the media; and news analysis. Also, one can learn numerous well-documented,
    less-promoted facts about AIDS. And by studying the behaviors of some public
    health officials one might identify morality conflicts for some of his own
    potential career choices.

    Reading Level and Data: Sometimes I had to re-read paragraphs because some
    of the logic and statistical thinking was new to me. But, a thorough grasp
    of statistics in epidemiology is not essential. After all, how much
    sophistication does it take to understand Fumento's copiously explained
    statements (abbreviated here): that receptive anal intercourse (for men or
    women) is by far the most AIDS-risky sexual behavior; or that early
    homosexual AIDS victims each averaged almost 1100 lifetime partners (1
    survey); or that among heterosexuals it is overwhelmingly the partners of
    intravenous drug abusers (IVDA) who are at highest risk; or that
    blood-transfusion-infected heterosexuals often required years, with regular
    intercourse, to infect their wives; or that female prostitutes in the United
    States do little to spread AIDS, but do sometimes acquire it from pimps or
    boyfriends; or that there is increased risk in vaginal intercourse if women
    are menstruating, have an infection or have another STD; or that in
    heterosexual lifestyles it is the character of, not the number of sexual
    partners that determines a woman's AIDS risk; or that about ten times as
    many native-born American males are diagnosed with breast cancer each year
    as are diagnosed with AIDS from heterosexual intercourse; or that there are
    also major differences in AIDS transmission rates depending on gender,
    race/ethnicity, socioeconomic status and inner-city vs. suburban living, or
    that in 1993 AIDS was continuing to receive about 20 times as much per death
    as cancer in federal research and education dollars?

    Why Read About AIDS? I believe that, there is a learning obligation for the
    lucky ones who do not get AIDS. For example, if everyone whose relative or
    loved one got AIDS were to broadly self-educate about AIDS, there would be a
    great reduction of suffering in the land - because victims would be better
    understood, because solutions could more likely be found, and because it
    would create "public supervision" of public health officials, activists,
    authors and the media. While Fumento does not dwell on the horrors of the
    AIDS illness, he does explain how those horrors have been imparted to
    (probably) thousands of excess persons in this country because funds had
    been diverted from categories of persons who were known to be at highest
    risk, and had been invested instead on those known to be at extremely low
    risk. But this was after huge waste in paying for professional salaries and
    media campaigns.

    What about Africa? Anyone who doubts any significant heterosexual AIDS
    prevalence in the USA (aside from that of partners of IVDA) is asked why we
    hear of a large heterosexual AIDS prevalence in Africa. Fumento explains: 1)
    Part of the African AIDS prevalence actually is from lied-about male
    homosexual behaviors. 2) There are rampant malaria, STD's and other diseases
    which have already weakened immune systems, increasing AIDS vulnerability.
    3) There is severe limitation on the availability of health care and
    medications. 4) During earlier phases of the epidemic there was no money to
    pay for the testing of donated blood or for eliminating re-use of needles in
    hospitals. 5) Prostitutes with STD's can't get medical treatment. 6) Africa
    has a few high-prevalence AIDS regions just as the USA does - but the media
    has tended to report a high prevalence over broad regions of Africa.

    Hate crimes: At least in the 1980's and early 1990's, homosexual activists,
    some public health professionals and the media vigorously promoted
    exaggerations of AIDS prevalence and predictions, with some even
    "foreseeing" the demise of the civilization. Given that some of the public
    actually believed these exaggerations and also saw through the lies of the
    media which denied the predominance of homosexual behavior and intravenous
    drug abuse in AIDS causation, it is surprising there was not more violence.

    Since this important book has nearly always been unavailable from libraries
    and bookstores readers can increase awareness by carrying it with them as a
    conversation starter, or by
    seeking advice from everyone they meet about how to obtain a copy, or by
    referring everyone to on-line book reviews. It is interesting to show and
    discuss the book with bookstore salespeople. - Bill Norwood



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