RE: (IRAQ) RE: Name calling vs. Ad Hominem

From: Harvey Newstrom (mail@HarveyNewstrom.com)
Date: Sat May 10 2003 - 19:50:40 MDT

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    Dehede011@aol.com wrote,
    > Harvey,
    > I won't use the rest of your rant as this is sufficient.
    > I can easily
    > understand your disappointment that the Army did not suffer a tragedy --

    You are falsely putting words in my mouth. Please show me any posting that
    implied I wanted the Army to suffer a tragedy, or even predicted that the
    Army would suffer a tragedy. I have never desired such an outcome and don't
    know why you would imply that I would. (Perhaps you are unaware of the many
    years I have devoted in support of the military as a military
    subcontractor.)

    > after having your personal political viewpoints shown to be
    > faulty must be painful.

    What political views are you talking about? Please quote previous posts
    from me and explain where my viewpoints were shown to be faulty. The only
    thing I remember claiming is that we still haven't proven that there were
    weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I think the jury is still out on that
    one.

    > The reporters that wanted to fraternize did so. Those
    > that did not
    > wish to fraternize did not do so. At least one story was filed
    > by a reporter
    > complaining about the large number of reporters that hung together, drank
    > together and turned in the Army's handouts. Even while embedded
    > they would not get out and do their job. But he admitted that was a
    minority.

    I'm not following you here at all. Are you sure your comments are directed
    at me? This doesn't seem to relate to anything I have ever said.

    > I suggest you quit trying to rewrite history. Those of us that
    > followed the war remember clearly the negativity of the reporters in the
    > early days of the war. We were bogged down, we were in another
    > Vietnam, we
    > would be months defeating the Iraqi Army, The Iraqis would blow
    > the bridges
    > and we would be forever even driving the distance to Baghdad.

    Please quote my exact postings. I never made these claims. You seem to
    have my viewpoints confused with what you believe to be the typical Liberal.
    The fact that you think I would deliberately want the Army to suffer a
    tragedy shows that your view of Liberals comes from misrepresentation from
    the Right. It clearly has no relationship to anything I have ever said. I
    wish you would not misrepresent me in such a manner. Again, I ask for
    specific quotations from me espousing the hate you claim. I believe your
    own hate and vitriol are being projected onto others.

    > Oh, and our
    > supply lines were deficient leaving our soldiers in hunger,
    > thirst & out of
    > ammo while our vehicles lacked both ammo & fuel.

    I never said this either. Are you sure you sure you don't have me confused
    with someone else? You are attacking bizarre positions that I have not seen
    presented on this list, and certainly not presented by me. Any evidence to
    the contrary would certainly be appreciated.

    --
    Harvey Newstrom, CISSP, IAM, GSEC, IBMCP
    <www.HarveyNewstrom.com> <www.Newstaff.com>
    


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