From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu May 01 2003 - 22:09:54 MDT
--- Rafal Smigrodzki <rafal@smigrodzki.org> wrote:
> Greg Jordan wrote:
> > Sterilization disrupts herd social patterns? More than violent
> > deaths? please. And since you gave no reason to oppose feeding,
> >I assume there was no reason...
> >
>
> ### From an economic point of view, hunting is obviously superior to
> sterilization - it is cheaper, provides its practitioners with
> pleasant experiences, and tasty meats.
Its more than that, it is highly profitable. ALL of the wildlife
habitat preservation spending in the US is paid for by hunting and
fishing license fees, so much so that during the Clinton
Administration, Interior Secretary Bruce Babbit attempted to hijack the
federal license revinues for funding anti-gun and animal-rights
lobbying. Furthermore, the economic synergies created by hunting lies
in the tens of billions of dollars each year in the US.
>
> As a result of the Supreme Court decision of 1896 (that was the year,
> I think), most wild animals in the US are owned by the state, opening
> their management to the political process and ideological warfare,
> with deleterious effects for all creatures involved (including
> animals, forests, landowners, and car drivers).
The Court ruled that the States can claim the wild herd if they choose
to. This is not universal. Texas, for example, provides far more
property rights to land owners with control over wildlife on their
property.
Nor are state's claims absolute. Landowners cannot be compelled to buy
a hunting license to hunt on their own property, and furthermore,
nuisance wildlife can be legally hunted on the owners land beyond
seasonal and bag limit regulations. I've shot a number of deer out of
season on apple orchards for the orchard owners, perfectly legally.
If you strike an animal with your vehicle, you are generally afforded
the right to claim the carcass.
Some law agencies will try to refuse this, claiming that the herd
belongs to the state. The easiest way to respond to this is to say that
since the state's animal was negligently on a state road in the middle
of the foggy night without the DOT and DMV mandated reflectors, lights,
blinkers, flaggers, hand signals, or signage attached or deployed, and
was not using a designated crosswalk, the state owes you money for
repairs or replacement of your damaged or wrecked vehicle.
I've seen this argument used in court. A freind of mine got a new
pickup truck from the state of NH specifically because the cops
wouldn't let him keep the moose he hit and totalled his truck on. It
was the funniest thing I've ever seen in court... NOTE: A moose can
have 500-1000 lbs of high quality, lowfat, meat, so this is a
significant financial issue for your average redneck. Improves his
standard of living by 10-20% or more for a year or more. Might
determine whether his kids are malnourished or not.
=====
Mike Lorrey
"Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
- Gen. John Stark
"Pacifists are Objectively Pro-Fascist." - George Orwell
"Treason doth never Prosper. What is the Reason?
For if it Prosper, none Dare call it Treason..." - Ovid
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