RE: Experiences with Atkins diet

From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 29 2003 - 14:16:54 MDT

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    --- gts <gts_2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > Greg Jordan wrote:
    >
    > > I am a vegetarian, but I don't agree
    > > with PETA's more extreme positions.
    >
    > I've seen only two theoretical arguments for vegetarianism: 1) the
    > argument that humans have a moral obligation to minimize suffering
    > in the world, including the suffering of animals, and 2) the
    > argument that humans are best genetically adapted to a diet limited
    > only to plant foods. Many vegetarians embrace both arguments. I
    > object to 1) mainly on philosophical grounds and to 2) mainly on
    > scientific grounds.

    What I find interesting is that those who espouse 1) are also generally
    atheistic, though there are buddhists as well. The atheist vegetarian
    who argues a moral argument can't give a rationale for their moral
    argument that is not grounded in theology. Furthermore, if completely
    ignores the fact that there is far more suffering of animals when they
    overpopulate due to overgrazing and lack of sustainable predation than
    when animals are regularly slaughtered quickly. Starvation is a very
    painful way to die.

    2) just isn't grounded in anything.

    >
    > There is one other argument I almost forgot: some funny man once said
    > he is a vegetarian not because he loves animals, but rather because
    > he hates plants.
    >
    > > If you want a real paleo-diet, try eating a human.
    >
    > Too much fat.

    Nor is cannibalism a paleodiet. While early cro-magnon were predated on
    by late homo erectus, cannibalism is unsupported by anthropoligical
    evidence. Earliest evidence found so far is the corn growers of the
    Anasazi and other populations on the margins of agricultural societies.

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    Mike Lorrey
    "Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
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    For if it Prosper, none Dare call it Treason..." - Ovid

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