Re: Doomsday and Fermi

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Date: Sun Apr 27 2003 - 18:24:40 MDT

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    I don't fully understand your point. "Extinct"? When you can control your
    mindstruct? "Hazard function"? With augmentation increasing your neural
    abilities to at least the order of 200 million times the present level, and
    intelligent materials are ever present?

    Just for the sake of argument, if we talk of a universe 5,000 times the size
    of the observable universe over the next 100 billion years, limited by the
    speed of light, then you can work out the number of generations that it is
    possible to have as a maximum (under a "straight" scenario) per individual.
    It is certainly not one child per year per being (or more) but nor is it one
    per 100 billion years. One thinks of the old grain of rice doubling on the
    chessboard squares story.

    I recommend John Wright's The Golden Age for a view on nanotech
    immortality - though I did read Clarke's AtFoN when I was 11 or 12 or so.

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury@aeiveos.com>
    To: <extropians@extropy.org>
    Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 8:08 AM
    Subject: RE: Doomsday and Fermi

    >
    >
    > On Fri, 25 Apr 2003, gts wrote:
    >
    > (Discussing with cryofan [I think] whether or not stop procreation)
    >
    > > It could be the answer to the riddle. Perhaps the probability of
    > > doomsday-in-the-near-future is offset by the probability of
    > > immortality-in-the-near-future.
    >
    > Can't be remotely "immortal" without giving up normal procreation.
    > The hazard function catches up with you over longevities ranging
    > from 2000-7000 years. If one stops procreating eventually we
    > become extinct. A good book that details some of what happens
    > is Clarke's "Beyond the Fall of Night" which is an extended
    > version of "Against the Fall of Night".
    >
    > Robert
    >
    >
    >



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