Re: evolution and diet (was: FITNESS: Diet and Exercise)

From: Brian Atkins (brian@posthuman.com)
Date: Wed Apr 16 2003 - 10:29:33 MDT

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    Ramez Naam wrote:
    >
    > My point is that in *all* human cultures prior to the last few
    > centuries, the causes of death were very different than the causes of
    > death that we see today.
    >
    > To be specific, heart disease, cancer, and stroke combined made up
    > about 80% of deaths in the US last year. They likely made up less
    > than 10% of deaths in any pre-industrial society.
    >
    > Here's what this tells us: the causes of death we now face have been
    > almost "invisible" to evolution until just the past few centuries.
    > That's why I'm dubious that an evolutionary perspective can tell you a
    > whole lot about what kind of diet is going to best stave off heart
    > disease or cancer - because heart disease and cancer were virtually
    > non-existent in human populations until very recently.
    >

    Here is quote from an old 1950's diet book I was browsing:

    "In 1921 coronary thrombosis was a rarity and accounted for only 746
    male deaths in Britain. In 1956 the figure was 45,000. It is still going
    up."

    Now I don't have figures in front of me, but I would bet that if you
    calculated the percentage of people over, say, 50 years old who suffered
    heart attacks in 1921 compared to the percentage in 1956 and beyond you
    might find a large difference. So I don't believe the argument that we
    are only seeing this huge rise in that set of diseases because we are
    living longer is accurate. In 1920 people over 50 simply _did not_
    suffer from heart attacks very often at all. Something changed in just a
    few short decades to make this a much more common event, and so far
    science has not figured it out.

    It very well could be due to dietary changes- most of which were shifts
    away from eating traditional/natural foods. There also are some theories
    that the war we wage on bacteria and other food borne illnesses may also
    have serious drawbacks... some pathogens actually may have beneficial
    side effects. Again though, this idea has not really been explored well
    by scientists even though there is plenty of evidence that traditional
    cultures used pathogens on purpose to improve their lives.

    -- 
    Brian Atkins
    Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
    http://www.singinst.org/
    


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