Re: FITNESS: Diet and Exercise

From: Damien Sullivan (phoenix@ugcs.caltech.edu)
Date: Mon Apr 14 2003 - 12:50:28 MDT

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    On Mon, Apr 14, 2003 at 12:37:24PM -0400, gts wrote:

    > > But that doesn't mean the grains are bad, vs. how we treat them.
    >
    > I think the question is not whether grains are "good" or "bad" in any
    > absolute sense. It is rather "What are the best sources of calories?"

    Sure. But there's nutrients and nutrients. Is taking lots of protein good?
    I've seen signs it isn't -- gout, calcium competition, kidney stones. And
    where do free radicals come from, metabolically? Are the "empty calories" of
    carbs a cleaner burning fuel than protein, without by-products gumming up the
    works?

    I'm just throwing out questions here, not asserting anything.

    Maybe the Okinawan success come from pure calories + lots of antioxidants and
    stuff + plus some (not much) good protein and fat from fish, with a touch of
    calorie restriction.

    Seems like Americans were getting fat on steak and potatoes, then tried to go
    low-fat and got even fatter and more diabetic. People conclude carbs are bad,
    but the Americans were also eating *more*, which might be the real problem.

    > > Grape juice or whole wheat bread: which would you rather live on?
    > One cannot live on either of these foods alone.

    I did always say grains weren't complete, didn't I? But fruits tend not to be
    either, and I suspect you'd last longer on the bread.

    -xx- Damien X-)



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