Re: Does international law exist? (was Re: [POLITICS/IRAQ] Thank God for the death of the UN ( JC))

From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Mar 28 2003 - 21:10:13 MST

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    --- Brett Paatsch <paatschb@ocean.com.au> wrote:
    >
    > I don't understand John. Do you doubt that the UN Charter exists
    > and has been signed (and ratified) by the United States and other
    > member nations? Or are you saying, as I think you are, that it does
    > exist but that it is not international law?

    A law is only a law if there is some organisation prepared to enforce
    it without capriciousness or arbitrariness on any party that violates
    it. The UN is not empowered to enforce anything it says, it is only
    left to suggest that other REAL governments do so.

    >
    > According to the UN Charter, the USA actually holds the signed
    > documents. The papers that are the ratified original documents.

    I know a fellow that has actual copies of the Articles of the Zionist
    conspiracy. Does that mean what they say is real? No, it doesn't.
    Papers are only valid if some significant institution is prepared to
    enforce their validity. Your passport is only real if there is a
    government prepared to stand up for your rights. Your drivers license
    is only real if there is a government prepared to not just revoke it
    from you, but to validate to other organizations that it is real. This
    is realpolitik in action.

    Considering that the UN was the idea of the leaders of three specific
    nations: The US, Britain, and the USSR, (I believe at the Yalta
    Conference) and presently only the US and Britain exist, and these two
    nations are the primary parties of the coalition of the willing, I
    would say that these two governments opinion of what the UN Charter
    means is a lot more valid than what anybody else thinks.

    =====
    Mike Lorrey
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