From: Nathanael Allison (jubungalord@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 24 2003 - 11:08:46 MST
Nate writes
> > We have been taught to fit this mold of America. It has
> > become our Nature.
>
Lee writes
>Can't agree. No one "taught" the Americans anything. And
>you cannot say it has become their Nature because dissent
>is too widespread.
I think that the real argument is with the development of the human mind. I
don't think that genetic disposition matters when it comes to most memes. I
would go so far as to say that the mind learns almost all unchangeable
dispositions from the enviroment. In that way human nature as we see it
wrong. I would even go farther to say that these learned systems are
essential for a funtioning human being. This of course would be hard to
prove. One would need to raise a human by machine since it's conception
inside a vacuum. I am not saying that we are a blank slate. I am saying that
our real nature has the ablity to be much more diverse than the one we have
learned.
All memes must follow genetic paths of language. I do not see why this
process would evolve more control when the control is already present in the
enviroment. People should realize that this enviroment of learning plays as
great a part as does genetics. I wonder if one could calculate the time it
would take for a human to evolve without this learning. Although such a
creature would lose the flexability humans have now. It would still be
interesting to find that humans would have taken X billions years to reach
this piont given an enviroment where that human would perfectly fit (it's
theoretical of course). Then a measurment could be compared to how long it
has taken us thus far. The suprising thing would be if the theoretical human
would take more than double the time a normal human took to evolve. Then
some would say that the "enviromental evolution" plays a larger part than
evolution.
If anyone has any sources on this let me know. Thanks Nate
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