RE: [IRAQ]:Human Nature

From: Nathanael Allison (jubungalord@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Mar 23 2003 - 20:38:01 MST

  • Next message: Dehede011@aol.com: "Re: [IRAQ]:Human Nature"

    Lee writes

    >I can not think of historical examples in which exhortations,
    >maxims, education, or propaganda has had the desired effect.
    >Some cultures, e.g. the Amish or Quaker, do succeed sometimes
    >in multiplying their numbers through peaceful living, and
    >becoming a force against war. But to the degree that we
    >want to credit them, it is their culture, I claim, not their
    >having succumbed to someone's propaganda that should get
    >the credit.
    >
    >(And moreover, it must be kept in mind that such cultures
    >to date have thrived only inside protective barriers erected
    >by democratic nations---barriers that keep such pacifistic
    >communities from being quickly overrun by violent nomads
    >or other nations.)

    Is thier a term for all false value systems that are sold to people? Such
    as cultural value systems, media value systems, military value systems ect.
    The word propaganda really only refers to media.
    I use the term value system meaning a system designed to bring about certain
    emotional responses to a certain stimuli. What is the correct terminology
    here?

    Although I see no difference between them except that the media can have a
    much greater effect. It is interesting to note that the evolution of culture
    is no different than the evolution of any other meme. It is also interesting
    to note that as long as you fit into a greater memeplex such as democracy
    ect.. the details of a culture might as well be random from an evolutionary
    standpiont.

    All these memes that control emotion control people. All these value systems
    have been sorted out to fit the mold of america. They haven't been chosen
    but natural selected. In theory, we have been taught what is positive
    emotional response and what is a negative emotional response. We have been
    taught to fit this mold of america. It has become our Nature. Although a
    very flexible mold it is still a mold. It has a range of possible outcomes
    to shape it's citizens. Such ranges only come to light when the media turns
    the tide too quickly.
    How much of this is true?

    _________________________________________________________________
    MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*
    http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus



    This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Sun Mar 23 2003 - 20:45:09 MST