From: matus (matus@snet.net)
Date: Wed Mar 19 2003 - 22:08:46 MST
I wonder if anyone has read some of the Libertarian arguments supporting the
war?
Here are some that showed up on FND or RRND
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Lincoln's lessons - "War is not the answer." Not the answer to what?
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Tech Central Station
by Duane D. Freese
"But as the ancestors of slaves and children of Holocaust survivors know,
an aversion to war can pave the way to a crueler despotism. Their pain
doesn't fit neatly on a bumper sticker." (3/5/03)
http://www.techcentralstation.com/1051/defensewrapper.jsp?PID=1051-350&CID=1anth
051-030503C
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Libertarianism in One State?
http://www.reason.com/links/links013003.shtml
Does freedom stop at the water's edge?
By Ronald Bailey
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The neo-hawks' secret shame
Weekly Standard
by Lee Bockhorn
"So, to our neo-hawk liberal friends: Welcome to the club; we're happy to
have you along. But remember that the objects of your scorn -- even that
notoriously 'flighty thinker,' George W. Bush -- were right about Iraq
months or even years before you saw the light. So please, check your
smugness and condescension at the door."
(02/28/03)
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/295adkdx.a
sp
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Fascist Pigs!
From -
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/243nrofp.a
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Demonstrations over the weekend show the left's dedication to preserving
murderous, dictatorial regimes--no matter what the cost. by Fred Barnes
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9- You're darn right it's about oil
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Frontiers of Freedom
by Kerri Houston
"Anyone in America with any sense ... would tell you that the possible
war in Iraq is not about oil, but has to do with protecting Americans ...,
presenting a clear and resolute foreign policy, and protecting Saddam's
neighbors and his own people from attack by his nasty weapons of mass
destruction. But they would be wrong." (2/24/03)
http://www.ff.org/centers/cnsd/opeds/022403-iraqoil.html
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Unresolved
Reason
by Cathy Young
"Both the prowar and the antiwar camp have some solid arguments -- and
sometimes each camp acts and talks in a way that is likely to make one root
for the other side." (2/26/03)
http://www.reason.com/cy/cy022603.shtml
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1- Undeclared wars
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Town Hall
by Thomas Sowell
"It is a painful reminder of human folly, irresponsibility, and
exhibitionism that millions of 'anti-war' demonstrators have somehow
convinced themselves that they have some special aversion
to war. No sane human being wants war."
From - http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20030220.shtml
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Anti War.com "top ten bogus justifcations for the IRaqi War" conspicuously
absent from these 'top ten' are 1) Saddam is a murderous tyrant and has
killed ~400,000 of his own people 2) Saddam is a murderous Tyrant that
controls the worlds second largest energy supply and 3) no one is free
unless everyone is free, corrupt murderous tyrants need to go ASAP.
Included, however are arguments such as (which I have never heard) 1) A War
Will Save the US Economy 2) Because We're Already There. Funny how some of
the best pro war arguments are left out, but some of the lamest are
included. -
Top ten bogus justifications for the Iraqi war
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Antiwar.com
by Christopher Deliso
"[T]oppling the flimsy foundations on which the pro-war edifice rests is
not a very difficult matter. While the
War Party's fraudulent justifications for war are myriad, debunking the
top ten will suffice." (3/5/03)
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/deliso69.html
See also
Tony Blair's Comments
From - http://www.labour.org.uk/tbglasgow/
"If I took that advice, and did not insist on disarmament, yes, there would
be no war. But there would still be Saddam. Many of the people marching will
say they hate Saddam. But the consequences of taking their advice is that he
stays in charge of Iraq, ruling the Iraqi people. A country that in 1978,
the year before he seized power, was richer than Malaysia or Portugal. A
country where today, 135 out of every 1000 Iraqi children die before the age
of five - 70% of these deaths are from diarrhoea and respiratory infections
that are easily preventable. Where almost a third of children born in the
centre and south of Iraq have chronic malnutrition. "
And
"But as you watch your TV pictures of the march, ponder this: If there are
500,000 on that march, that is still less than the number of people whose
deaths Saddam has been responsible for. If there are one million, that is
still less than the number of people who died in the wars he started."
See
Letters from two exiled Iraqis
From - http://www.labour.org.uk/tbspeechiraqiletters/
"We have listened to the latest announcements from your government and
opposition stating that your main objective is not the regime change but
disarmament! This is worrying for the Iraqi people. We believe that the only
way forward is simultaneous removal of any weapons of mass destruction and
regime change. This would be the starting point of restoring any peace in
the Middle East."
And
"I want to ask those who support the anti - "war" movement (apart from
pacifists - that is a totally different situation) their motives and
reasoning behind such support. You may feel that America is trying to blind
you from seeing the truth about their real reasons for an invasion. I must
argue that in fact, you are still blind to the bigger truths in Iraq. I must
ask you to consider the following questions:
-Saddam has murdered more than a million Iraqis over the past 30 years, are
you willing to allow him to kill another million Iraqis?
-Out of a population of 20 million, 4 million Iraqis have been forced to
flee their country during Saddam's reign. Are you willing to ignore the real
and present danger that caused so many people to leave their homes and
families?
-Saddam rules Iraq using fear - he regularly imprisons, executes and
tortures the mass population for no reason whatsoever - this may be hard to
believe and you may not even appreciate the extent of such barbaric acts,
but believe me you will be hard pressed to find a family in Iraq who have
not had a son/father/brother killed, imprisoned, tortured and/or
"disappeared" due to Saddam's regime. What has been stopping you from taking
to the streets to protest against such blatant crimes against humanity in
the past?
-Saddam gassed thousands of political prisoners in one of his campaigns to
"cleanse" prisons - why are you not protesting against this barbaric act?
-An example of the dictator's policy you are trying to save - Saddam has
made a law to give excuse to any man to rape a female relative and then
murder her in the name of adultery. Do you still want to march to keep him
in power?
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