From: Dehede011@aol.com
Date: Fri Mar 14 2003 - 07:02:53 MST
In a message dated 3/14/2003 7:07:18 AM Central Standard Time, 
MaxPlumm@aol.com writes: I would respectfully disagree with this position. As 
Lee illustrated, the popular vote has never been the final arbiter of 
decision in an American election.
Max,
       I paid a lot of attention to the back and forth charges of the past 
Presidential election.  There were also some explanation of the mechanics of 
vote counting.
       According to all explanations I saw, the vote is tallied state by 
state.  As soon as the uncounted vote is small enough that it cannot possibly 
change the current standing in that state then the vote counting is 
discontinued.  In other words pretend that in Illinois the vote for President 
stood at:
Plumm                                 5.4 Million
Harrison                               5.0 Million
Uncounted                            0.3 Million
       Under our system the counting would stop.  Even if all 3 million of 
the uncounted vote went for Harrison then Plumm would still win.  So, it is 
pointless to continue counting.  The uncounted votes would be thrown away and 
no one would know what the final was on the popular vote.  We would only know 
state by state who had won the electoral vote.  In the example cited that 
would be Plumm.  
       New bureaus and various politicians would add state by state all the 
electoral votes to see who had won.  They would also analyze the popular vote 
in minute detail down to each individual polling place to see what lessons 
they can learn from the distribution of the vote.  However for the 
Presidential contest literally millions of votes would go uncounted.
       The result is that we can only truthfully say that at the time the 
voting stopped Bush had won the electoral vote and Gore was ahead in the 
popular vote.
       However you will find some disappointed people that will seize on 
their candidate being ahead in the popular vote.  They will and do blur the 
distinction between ahead and having won the popular vote.
       But Max, like many people I worked in that election and I know how 
psychologically sensitive a person can become to the election's outcome after 
that person has invested hours of volunteer time to helping their party and 
its candidates.  Consequently when some person from another party (different 
from my party) makes a statement that is slightly irresponsible or off the 
mark I don't begrudge that person their feelings.  In a sense it is a bond.  
They cared deeply enough to invest their time in the election just as I did.  
If I whipped them this time that is not to crow about -- they have whipped me 
often enough and will again.  The people in their wisdom throw us all out 
from time to time. <G>
       However, as a Republican that is first an American there is one thing 
about the situation in Florida that must never be forgotten IMHO.  In a very 
real sense George Bush did not win because of the U. S. Supreme Court's vote. 
 He won because election workers and judges of state courts in Florida that 
were Democrat voters in their private capacity ruled time after time in favor 
of George Bush.  I am saying that those people faced with making a ruling 
time after time did the ethical thing and followed the law.
       Allow me to trust my memory to provide you one example -- I believe 
the Bush/Gore contests were tried in whole or in part before six different 
Florida State Courts.  All six courts were controlled by judges that in their 
private capacity were Democrats.  It is said the Chief Justice of the Florida 
Supreme Court was a Clinton Campaign Contributor.  Yet, five of the six 
courts ruled in favor of Bush.
       I won't go into the actual counting except to say I believe election 
judges from the Democrat Party finally said enough is enough and refused to 
help Gore past a certain point.  I can't prove that but having watched 
closely it is the only interpretation that I can make fit what I saw.
       Let me summarize a very lengthy rant. LOL There are crooks aplenty in 
politics.  But I have seen political workers willing to watch members of 
their own party get defeated because with their insider knowledge they knew 
that particular candidate to be a crook.  I believe the system works only 
because many very decent people work to operate the system legally and 
fairly.
Ron h.
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