From: spike66 (spike66@attbi.com)
Date: Tue Mar 11 2003 - 21:22:03 MST
Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
> Well, I guess the big picture does evince a /bit/ of ego...
> But Spike? Who has Spike ever annoyed, except possibly a few
> folks utterly devoid of a sense of humor?
Nah I deserve it. Of the last three extropian pun-barfs,
I started two of them.
This is a way cool thing, this whuffie rating. I need
to know how it works. Consider a chess rating, the so called
Elo. This is a great system, because it doesn't have a long
memory. A player can have a 1600 rating for 40 years, retire,
spend time studying up, play a couple of good tournaments, watch
her rating climb to 2000. Elo isn't a long-term average, its
more a current performance with past rating as a starting
point. It takes into account the Elo of your opponents,
more points given for defeating a higher rated opponent, etc.
Likewise if someone is a bad guy with a low whuffie, then
later gets religion and turns nice, there should be a way
for his whuffie to eventually recover.
Hmmm, gets religion. Ok, bad example. He gets a brain
transplane and turns smart.
This whuffie, does it take into account if one person really
hates you, can she grind your whuffie into the dust single
handedly? What if someone loves everyone. Shouldn't that
dilute the value of their positive ratings? Same with the
guy that hates everyone. Seems like there should be some
kind of limit to the amount of influence one can do to
another's whuffie, and it should balance overall so that
one's total influence has as much positive as negative
influence integrated over the group, and is directly
proportional to ones own whuffie. Chess Elos work this
way, which is what prevents Elo inflation over time.
If someone with a negative whuffie rates you negatively, then
the overall effect should be positive, right? Of course then
those whose whuffies are neutral can have no effect on anyone's
whuffie. Of course then it is tempting to intentionally
piss off those with low whuffies in order to get them to
rate you low, and a negative times a negative is positive.
There would be a constant love-fest among the high whuffiers
and a constant mutual battle among the low whuffiers.
Clearly the system is filled with curious self referential paradox.
I *like* curious self referential paradox.
Somebody explain how the system works, including equations please.
spike
ps Waaay cool post, Hal. {8-]
pss. No, wait, Hal, you said your whuffie is negative. Hmmmm.
Hal, you primitive savage! I bet you compute on an Intel386
with OS2!
{8^D
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