Re: How's it all playing in France itself? (was IRAQ? Not exactly about it...)

From: spike66 (spike66@attbi.com)
Date: Sat Feb 22 2003 - 01:32:50 MST

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    Lee Corbin wrote:

    > I think that the bad reputation of the French military
    > is mostly undeserved. Their biggest mistakes are
    > usually said to be
    >
    > * losing to the Germans in 1870, a fiasco
    > of Napoleon III
    > * the quick defeat in WWII by the Germans
    > * Dien Bien Phu

    This was in the NY Post a couple days ago. Im not
    enough of a history wonk to know if it is true or
    just a joke. Of course Im not enough of a history
    wonk to know if General Washington defeated General
    Grant at Waterloo, but thats my personal shortcoming.
    What we need is a means of expressing history with
    equations, then I would surely take more interest.

    The Complete Military History of France.

    Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2,000
    years of French history, France is conquered by, of all things, an Italian.

    Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic
    who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare: France's
    armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman.

    Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever
    lose two wars when fighting Italians.

    Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.

    Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages
    to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the
    other participants started ignoring her.

    War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as
    chapeaux.

    The Dutch War - Tied.

    War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War -
    Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three non-outright defeats in a row cause
    historians to correctly label the period as the height of French
    military power.

    War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The war also gave the French their
    first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.

    American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to
    future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists
    saw far more action. This is later known as "Gaulle Syndrome," and leads
    to the Second Rule of French Warfare: France only wins when America does
    most of the fighting.

    French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was
    also French.

    The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First
    Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for
    a British footwear designer.

    The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunken
    frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

    World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the
    United States. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not
    only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein."
    Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any
    improvement in the French bloodline.

    World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and
    Britain just as they finish learning the lyrics for "Deutschland Cber
    Alles."

    War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with
    the Dien Bien Flu.

    Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army
    by a non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First
    Rule of Muslim Warfare: We can always beat the French. This rule is
    identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans,
    English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

    War on Terrorism - Surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe.
    Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes
    refuge in a McDonald's.



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