RE: spreading democracy (was: Bush budget has 0 dollars for Afghanistan)

From: Ramez Naam (mez@apexnano.com)
Date: Tue Feb 18 2003 - 13:02:22 MST

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    From: Dehede011@aol.com [mailto:Dehede011@aol.com]
    > Is it really? I know we did participate in the rise of the
    > Shah to some extent. But are you underestimating the deep
    > desire of Moslems for a state that is ruled by Moslem law.
    > I know some pretty moderate Moslems that deeply and
    > sincerely believe that Moslem law is superior to secular
    > rule.

    FYI, I was born in Egypt and still visit there from time to time. I'm
    an atheist and I'm happy to be an American, but I believe my
    upbringing and family give me a bit more insight into the middle
    eastern mindset than most people.

    As far as I can tell, most people around the world want the same
    thing. They want a happy, comfortable life. They want safety and at
    least a little bit of freedom. They want opportunities for themselves
    and their kids.

    My belief is that fanaticism and hatred are inversely correlated to
    freedom and opportunity. If you take away all the hope that someone
    has for a better future, then you leave that person much more willing
    to engage in destructive behavior.

    In the middle east today there's very little hope. Most arabs are
    extremely poor. Even in rich countries like Saudi Arabia or Qatar,
    only a tiny minority reap the benefits of the oil wealth. The rest
    live in poverty with no way out. They look at their governments and
    they see corrupt dictators who steal from the country. They look
    again and see that their governments are supported by the US.

    This feeling of hopelessness and oppression gives rise to fanaticism
    and violence. When you're desperately poor and uneducated, the idea
    of a vengeful god who will send you to paradise if you kill his
    enemies is awfully appealing. It's even better when his enemies are
    the people who have what you want (comfort and affluence) and are also
    the ones who are directly or indirectly oppressing you.

    That's why I believe that the best thing the US could do to reduce
    terrorism in the long run is to help uplift these awful parts of the
    world. Last year the US spent more than $400 Billion on defense and
    national security and only $10 Billion on foreign aid. To me that
    looks very shortsighted. We should be paying dictators to allow a
    free press in their country. We should be building schools and
    training teachers. We should be paying the poor of impoverished
    countries to build infrastructure in those places, just as we did in
    the US during the great depression.

    Those are the steps that will reduce global poverty, hopelessness, and
    fanaticism.

    mez



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