RE: The Buzz in Baghdad

From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Feb 18 2003 - 08:33:16 MST

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    --- Lee Corbin <lcorbin@tsoft.com> wrote:
    > Damien writes
    >
    > > Yes, it's just like those awful anti-nuclear marches. All the
    > > so-called "peace" demonstrators---whose main effect was to
    > > increase the likelihood of war--helped by their protests (which
    > > were greeted in the streets of Moscow
    > > with the greatest elation) to bring about the ruinous exchange in
    > > 1989 when the Soviet Union nuked the USA and vice versa.
    > > Oh no, wait.
    >
    > I understand your sarcasm, and do grant the point that
    > you are trying to make. Indeed, the peace protests in
    > the U.S. in the 1980's helped permit Soviet leaders to
    > take more chances---but this was perhaps not so great
    > an effect as that they evidently trusted Reagan and
    > Bush not to take advantage of their dissolution.
    > Still, you are entirely correct that the demonstrations
    > themselves had a salutary outcome.

    Still again, nobody seems to remember the worldwide peace marches
    against war in europe in the 1930's (while many were already dying in
    Manchuria and Spain, where nobody was protesting peacefully against the
    fascists, they were all armed). The peaceniks efforts culminated in
    such great monuments to pacifism as an international treaty outlawing
    war, that no fascist paid any attention to, a worldwide arms control
    treaty that every fascist cheated at, and the Munich Pact, where
    Chamberlain declared 'Peace in our time!', and Hitler quickly
    violated... You'd think pacifists would have learned a lesson by now.

    =====
    Mike Lorrey
    "Live Free or Die, Death is not the Worst of Evils."
                                                         - Gen. John Stark
    "Pacifists are Objectively Pro-Fascist." - George Orwell
    "Treason doth never Prosper. What is the Reason?
    For if it Prosper, none Dare call it Treason..." - Ovid

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