From: Spudboy100@aol.com
Date: Sat Feb 15 2003 - 16:39:00 MST
Arti querried:
<<As far as I know, the anti-war protests I have been involved with are
basically anti-DEATH and speaking out against bullying tactics by my own #$%&
@! government! Anti-American??? I THINK NOT! Anti-current warmongering
policy, YES.>>
America going after hostiles is by definition, war-mongering to you. Since
neither you, nor I will be shouldering a rifle in this comming jihad, this
relegates us to email flames, I'm afraid.
<<What *I* want as a protester is a government that does not DICTATE to its
citizens and the world that it means to be "the boss", and that it is always
RIGHT! Our government needs to continuously work harder with the other
countries of the world and come together to deal more effectively with people
like Osama who perpetuate fear and death among us human beings. We need to
learn to deal effectively with problems like these on a global scale, not
unilaterally as "King George II" wants to do.>>
You want our government and other governments to behave as you would wish
them, and so do I, but the wishes of you and I are diamterically opposed. We
need to Boss other nations around because of so many Americans have died, by
"acting respectfully", which in most parts is seen as weakness.
I believe the nations like France, Germany, Belgium, Mother Russia, China; as
a very brief summary, would like to see the United States (and by definition
its citzenry) contained, broken, and perhaps destroyed, respectively. Its not
paranoia when it happens before our electronic eyes and ears, and 9-11
happended, and the Euro denouncements of the US are happening.
Let me say that when thousands perish in Sidney, vis a vi, a successful
attack; the choice for Australia's citizens will be clearer then. This will
be a digital choice I am suggesting; 0 or 1, war or withdrawl, yes or no. We
may discuss that later if you'd like?
George hasn't found Osama, this is true, but Europe and China are not "hot
nuts" for entering Pakistan and routing out the bastard and his ISI
supporters either. I voted for Gore, last election because I liked his ideas
on energy, which were better than no ideas, which GB2 seemed to exemplify. I
surely support Bush2 now as a antidote to the nihilsm and strident
Chamberlinist mentality pervading the Left and the Liberals too.
<<The world will always be full of "thugs", I just don't think that the
United States should become one of them by threatening other countries with
it's own WMD's FOR ANY REASON! Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a JUSTIFIED
war with conventional high-tech weapons, for reasons such as if a country
tries to forcibly take over its neighgbor or perpetuates "ethnic cleansing"
or whatever you want to call it.>>
Ok you've decided then to wait until a 1st strike, and absorb the deaths, and
then react after the fact, and the body count has been conducted. Very well.
I vociferously disagree to having my fellow citizens lying dead in the
streets by the thousands, so the protestors can feel themselves to be morally
justified.
<<As for the "rogue entities" (meaning terrorist groups etc.), if they REALLY
want weapons, there will always be people out there willing to sell to them,
that is unavoidable no matter how many countries are involved in the "War
against Terrorism". I can't think of any real effective way of controlling
the uncontrollable, but I do think that increasing national security is a
good thing as long as our civil liberties are still protected (which I
definitely think they are not!). >>
Yes, possessing and obtaining such weapons is surely, possible. However, if
there is a rolling military and political campaign, joined by many nations as
it gains steam, and fiercely enforced by the CIA, then even the Russian Mafia
might find it not worth the trouble. 100 million for a stolen nuke is not
worth it if you and your compadres' can't spend the money in hell.
<<Can we please stop this madness from spreading?
Arti>>
The madness, as you state it, is not a one-sided coin. The madness is a
profilgate European and North Korean hunger for cash, and prestige, and the
willingness to sell to people who have the mentality of Koba the Bandit (aka
Stalin), whom happens to be Saddam's beloved role model from his youth. The
madness is a citizenry of those states, willing to coddle terrorist and
jihadi nations (including the USA's coddling of the Saudi Royals) and the
wondering why the snake turns around and bites us in the bum? You want a
world where people sensibly negotiate, and exchange ideas through analysis
and resolve? Good, then remove dictatorships, and the governments which suck
up to them. Because these dictatorships and their quisling lakeys are holding
up the arrival of such a world state.
Yours, in peace
Mitch
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