Re: PERIPHERAL - bio/ecological query

From: Russell Blackford (rblackford@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Feb 06 2003 - 16:35:33 MST

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    Oh, and thanks for this too. I think I now have enough thoughts to go on
    from you and Anders. It's nice to have people to bounce this off.

    R

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    >From: "Robert J. Bradbury" <bradbury@aeiveos.com>
    >Reply-To: extropians@extropy.org
    >To: extropians@extropy.org
    >Subject: Re: PERIPHERAL - bio/ecological query
    >Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:39:42 -0800 (PST)
    >
    >
    >On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Russell Blackford wrote:
    >
    > > Okay, imagine a fairly full-on nuclear exchange causes a dark nuclear
    >winter
    > > of several months' duration. Imagine further that the global climate
    > > thereafter tips over into something like ice-age temperatures. [snip]
    > >
    > > IF it happened like this, what would the major tropical/equatorial
    >forests
    > > of places like Brazil look like after, say, 15-30 years? Presumably they
    > > would die but a lot of the big trees would remain standing. What sort of
    >new
    > > vegetation could we expect to grow in what waa left of these jungles?
    >
    >It really depends on how dark it gets for how long. The Sagan lengthy
    >nuclear winter hypothesis has been fairly disproven I believe.
    >
    >First, many of the below canopy plants stand a good chance of surviving.
    >They are adapted to very low light conditions -- unless the "winter"
    >created *really* extended, totally dark conditions, some sunlight would
    >still make it through the clouds/fog. Then you have to consider rain
    >forest plants -- these spend much of their time under a lack of direct
    >sun (in Seattle this is 7-8 months a year even not being in a rain
    >forest). Finally, if the temperatures drop there are many plants
    >from tundra and high altitude environments that will just migrate
    >southward and to lower altitudes respectively.
    >
    >It might also depend what time of the year the nuclear exchange
    >took place. Many plants, particularly in temperate zones store
    >a lot of their resources in their roots during the winter.
    >Provided some sunlight returns by the spring they are likely
    >to recover fairly well. Equatorial forests do not do this
    >but the under-canopy growth should stand a fighting chance.
    >A better question might be how the "endarkenment" might
    >impact rainfall. Less sunlight means less evaporation means
    >less rain (even though the small atmospheric particles might
    >be better at seeding increased rainfall). The plants are
    >likely to suffer more from a lack of water (which drives
    >photosynthesis) than a lack of sunlight.
    >
    >Robert

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