RE: Performance enhancement with selegiline

From: Rafal Smigrodzki (rms2g@virginia.edu)
Date: Tue Feb 04 2003 - 12:56:19 MST

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    gts wrote:
    > Rafal Smigrodzki wrote:
    >
    >> ### I know selegiline is a selective MAOI.
    >> I meant to write "How does it compare to other MAOI's?"
    >> In other words, since MAOI's suck, and selegiline is a MAOI,
    >> selegiline sucks, too.
    >
    > MAOI's don't "suck." Were it not for the risks of hypertensive crises
    > from tyramine rich foods then MAOI's would still reign supreme as the
    > best and safest antidepressants in existence. It is only because of
    > those hypertensive risks associated with certain foods that the
    > tricyclics and SSRI's and others were developed.

    ### Actually, MAOI's have all kinds of other side effects, such as
    palpitations, somnolence, agitation, hypertension, headache, hepatotoxicity,
    and a very, very long list of drug interactions.

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     But the MAOI
    > selegiline does not suffer from those risks, Rafal, because as I've
    > stated several times, at normal dosages it is a selective inhibitor
    > only of *MAO-B*, and the inhibition of MAO-B does not entail any
    > risks of hypertensive crises.

    ### At selective doses (10mg) selegiline has insufficient potency, at
    effective doses (30-60 mg) it is no longer selective enough (one of your
    abstracts mentions that, too).

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    >
    >> Give me some data supporting the contention that selegiline is "an
    >> excellent antidepressant", compared to the SSRI's, TCA's, and
    >> atypicals I mentioned above.
    >
    > Okay I will offer a few of abstracts below on that subject, but as I
    > wrote above this is really beside the point. I'm not interested in
    > defending selegiline only as an antidepressant. Its key value to
    > transhumanists and others here is that it is a potent
    > neuroprotectant, a cognitive aid, and a potential agent of life
    > extension.

    ### "Potential" is the key word here. So far there is no proof of life
    extension in humans, and no proof of neuroprotection in PD.

    Rafal



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