RE: List dynamics (was Re: Are we defeated by the very topics we feel passionate about?)

From: Reason (reason@exratio.com)
Date: Tue Jan 21 2003 - 00:21:40 MST


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-extropians@extropy.org
> [mailto:owner-extropians@extropy.org]On Behalf Of Dossy
>
> On 2003.01.20, Reason <reason@exratio.com> wrote:
> >
> > True. I wasn't thinking complete as-is cross-posting. Say, for
> example, that
> > Wiki posts are sent to a mailing list (suitably auto-fake-quoting for
> > context), or put into a bulletin board under the same scheme. Replies to
> > those may or may not go back into the Wiki, depending on how you want to
> > work things and whether the Wiki maintains its own comments sections for
> > each entry or not.
>
> The problem is there really is no sense of a "wiki post" -- well, a page
> can be edited. So, are you suggesting to send out the entire page's
> contents every time someone edits it? Even if the edit is just
> correcting a typo in a single word?
>
> Eerg. Ouch.

Nothing quite so drastic, as what you quote can be fairly intelligently
sectioned automatically, but along those lines. Editing a page is a "wiki
post." You can also have a wiki with a comments section for each section (so
that people can discuss potential edits) which is something like a threaded
forum.

> > Posting to a Wiki is still, topologically, a conversation. So I think
> > they're viable things for some sort of inclusion in the planned grand
> > tranhumanist information exchange.
>
> Actually, I see pages in a wiki as a snapshot or moment in time
> representing the collective voiced consciousness of a group of
> contributors. By examining it at a specific point in time there is no
> way to be certain of who contributed what, even given "signatures"
> that suggest someone contributed something specific as someone else
> could have edited it without subsequently signing it themselves.

Ah, but you lose so much information by viewing it that way. A commented
change history could be a conversation unto itself (and I presume often is,
since groups tend to consult amongst themselves in the course of updating
valued wikis). I think there's value in keeping all these subthreads of
community conversation.

Reason
http://www.exratio.com/



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