Re: Memes.org: Transhumanism: The New Master Race? M

From: Brett Paatsch (paatschb@ocean.com.au)
Date: Wed Jan 08 2003 - 02:08:31 MST


-------->Natasha wrote:
> >Brett
> >Sorry I'm not familiar with Pro-Act.<
> ______________
>
> It's a network I created before my cancer surgery, when it was put on hold
> (but definitely not forgotten). You can go to
> http://www.progressaction.org/ and see the talk I delivered at Extro 5 and
> the PowerPoint presentation. The mission statement on the home page.
>

Just had a look at the powerpoint presentation. Looks like it would
have/will be a very good initiative. Closest thing I've seen to strategic
assessment of
the competitive meme-scape in terms of particular organisations and their
agendas. Good stuff. Sorry it was brought to a halt, particularly in the way
that it was.

> >In my experience many people and groups find it exceptionally
> difficult to really hear criticism and therefor to benefit from it.<
> ____________________
>
> I'm not sure about this, but I do now that in the art world, criticism is
> expected and utilized. Art critics are in high demand and studio artists
> (painters and electronic artists) rely on criticism for our work. It is
how
> we are taught to cogitate and conjecture.

I think it varies from person to person but I'd take a fair bit of
convincing
that artists as a class are generally better than most at taking criticism.

But which art critics? And in demand by whom - the artists, or galleries,
magazines, investors, art is business too.

I suspect you are not a typical instance of the class of people that are
artist. :-)

>
> On a more objective stance, I think extropians are similarly interested in
> criticism for their/our growth and also, importantly, for our reliability.

Me too. But still. Perhaps I can make more point about the power of
perceptions to influence intelligent scientifically trained people by
reference
to the double blind procedure used in drug testing. The use it, because they
found they needed too.

>
> But, I do agree that there are many people, including extropians, who
react
> defensively and I'm sure we all bear that burden at some point or another.

Yes

> that
> ExI is a political organization, which it is NOT and claims no particular
> affiliation with ANY one political mindset, platform or organization.

This was important enough for a separate thread I thought.

Regards,
Brett



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