Re: Trans- vs. Non-human

Twirlip of Greymist (
Sun, 8 Dec 1996 13:29:38 -0800 (PST)

On Dec 7, 6:05pm, Eliezer Yudkowsky wrote:

} > Which requires defining what your idea of a better future *is*. Someone
} > from the Church of the Euthanasia believes they're working for a better
} > future, which happens to involve the reduction or extinction of the
} > human race. Are they extropic? Why not? They're pushing for a better
} > future!
} Excuse me! I'm working for a better future, which happens to involve
} the total extinction of the human race, albeit not the death of any
} individual human per se.
} I would say that these people are not Extropians - they are "noble
} Entropians", people who believe in a greater goal that simply happens to

The person I was responding to defined extropianism as working for a
better future. My objection is that the statement is vapid -- everyone
who worries about the future tries to make it better, in their lights.
Cypherpunks work for a better future with easy strong privacy; Brin is
forecasting a future with no privacy at all, and saying it will be
better if everyone can access all information.

Merry part,
-xx- Damien R. Sullivan X-) <*>

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