Re: Hallucinogens Spawn the Great Filter

Chris Hind (
Thu, 28 Nov 1996 21:16:21 -0800

At 17:07 11/28/96 -0500, you wrote:
>At 06:15 PM 11/27/96 -0500, wrote:
>Mazatecs, consumed, as a central feature of reli-
>gious ritual and healing ceremony, the seeds of two varieties
>of the morning glory, ipomoea violacea and rivea corymobosa,
>from which Dr. Albert Hoffman extracted LSD. But before you
>go out and wolf down a packet of morning glory seeds %^)
>consider that most are coated with a toxic fungicide.
>Also, I suspect they don't sell the active varieties. |^(

I hear that they do sell the varieties containing LSD but they are treated
with a toxic fungicide so you would need to grow a generation of morning
glories to get fresh seeds which isn't hard. But I also hear that the side
effects are worse than the 'high'. I hear that you can get VERY sick from
them and that you need to mash the seeds into a pulp. I myself have never
tried acid but I know alot about herbs and plants. When I was 5 I tookover
the backyard and grew all sorts of plants but now I only grow Insectivorous
plants (ie. flytraps, sundews, butterworts, etc) and I'm dying to get my
hands on some nepenthes!

>LSD was originally extracted by Dr. Hoffman from the
>rye fungus ergot (claviceps purpurea) from which several
>popular medications are derived, such as the life exten-
>sion drug Hydergine. Here too, in the case of rye fungus,
>there is evidence of ceremonial religious use when prop-
>erly prepared, as the fungi is quite poisonous.
>Hawaiian wood rose also contains LSD, as I understand,
>in fairly high concentrations. It's even sold through
>mail order companies. I'm, however, not aware of it
>being associated with historical ritual use.
> >But in essence (with or without mushrooms) you are talking about something
> >quite important, more specifically *patterns and visualizations* and a keen
> >observation about the intelligence of humans - being that (primarily)
> > through the vision part of the brain, we have developed pattern
> > recognitions that other species do not.
> >How this will shape up in the debate about and developement of cognitive
> >science and intelligence research I am not qualified to say.
> >But it is certain that our eyes and mind and imagination (mind's eye) all
> >work together in a very different and cohesive way to make us what one
> >would call "sentient".
>IAN: It's interesting to note that the anti-drug mind-set,
>which acts to suppress the logical integration of hallucinogenic
>knowledge and practice into modern life and anthropo-neurological
>investigation, cannot see the connections that make this line of
>inquiry logical. In short, the lower intellectual capacity of
>this violent subset of society suppresses the application of
>those agents that may be associated with the growth of intellect-
>ual capacity, which is exactly what one would predict. The drug
>laws represent the victory of ignorance which stifles further
>intellectual progress and evolution along these lines.
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