Re: low profile
N.BOSTROM@lse.ac.uk
Thu, 17 Oct 96 15:55:47 GMT
          [appologies if this occurs twice]
          
          Robin Hanson wrote:
          >could someone nova our star, or galactic centre?
          
          Forrest Bishop: wrote:
          >Yes [then a story about inducing a fusion reaction in the 
          outer layers of the sun]
          
          Does not sound plausible to me. First, if you would 
          literally nova our "star" you would have to increase its 
          mass by 40% -quite a heavy initiator! Even so, you would 
          presumably have to wait millions of years before the sun had 
          burned up its hydrogen fuel (and then helium etc) and begun 
          to contract.
          
          If you wanted to induce an explosion by sending a bomb to 
          the precritical region surounding the core, I don't think 
          this would work either. The sun shines by hydrogen burning; 
          there are enormous fusion bombs detonating in the sun every 
          second. The balance between Coloumb forces and average 
          kinetic energy must be quite robust, or stars would blow up 
          at any time in the middle of their evolution.
          
          As for the galactic centre, it is more difficult to tell, I 
          believe. I would think that a chain reaction would 
          presuppose a high denisty of white dwarfs or equivalent.
          
          Moreover, a supernova explodes at only about 15000 km/sec, 
          which an advanced civilisation could perhaps be possible to 
          run away from. A lot of the energy is also released in the 
          form of neutrinos, which travel at approximately the speed 
          of light; but then again there is a very small cross section 
          for neutrino reactions, so one could stand a very heavy 
          neutrino shower without getting hurt.
          
          In general, the effect of any cosmic blast drops off as the 
          inverse cube of the distance. Since cosmic distances are 
          typically very large, such indiscriminate blasts would seem 
          to be ineffective as means of warfare. Even a supernova 
          explosion, which is about as violent as anything (short of 
          big bang, or vacum decay or a big chain reaction of 
          supernovae where such is possible) would not hurt us 
          significantly if it were a few light years away, and an 
          armoured civilisation could survive much closer.
          
          An "electomagnetic pulse of unspeakable amplitude" (Forrest 
          Bishop) would also seem like science fiction proper.
          
          It is important that we use realistic assumptions about the 
          conditions of cosmic warfare in our simulations. Since there 
          are still many unsolved problems in fundamental physics, I 
          suggest we set up several simulations with different 
          parameters for weapon technology. There are several relevant 
          variables here, such as projectile speed, production cost, 
          identifiability of aggressor, technology level required for 
          its manufacture, discrimination capabilities ("hurt only the 
          bad guys"), etc. Maybe the time is ripe to begin to try to 
          really work this out.
          
          Nicholas Bostrom              n.bostrom@lse.ac.uk