Re: Darwinian extropy
N.BOSTROM@lse.ac.uk
Sun, 05 Jan 80 02:10:55 GMT
          Dan Clemmensen has suggested that SIs don't colonise cosmos 
          because of their high discount rate for future benefits. The 
          discount rate would presumably be high because of the 
          rapidity of their subjective time and the slowness of cosmic 
          travels. The idea is interesting since, if right, it would 
          help resolve the Fermi paradox.
          
          One reason why SIs could have a high discount rate would be 
          if they had a bias towards the near future, just as we 
          humans have. We tend to care more about an imminent pleasure 
          than about a similar one we would sure to get in a billion 
          years. Perhaps all SIs would be "irrational" in the same 
          way?
          
          Another reason why an SI might discount the benefits of 
          colonisation is because they would only come about if it 
          diverted some of its resources to the space mission, 
          resources which could have been used for other purposes. 
          Suppose that the objective of the SI is to maximise the 
          amount of valuable computations it will carry out during its 
          life time. At a certain time t it has a given capital 
          (consisting perhaps of its mass or available energy). Part 
          of this capital could be invested into a project that would 
          yield returns at t'>t, but meanwhile that capital could not 
          be used to make valuable computations, i.e. there would be 
          an opportunity cost which would have to be subtracted from 
          the expected returns when considering whether the investment 
          is worthwhile. The question is what the function 
          f=valuablecomputationspower(capital) looks like. For 
          Clemmensen's argument to go through, it would not suffice 
          that f had a jerk at some point, because different SIs would 
          presumably start out with somewhat different amounts of 
          capital. If all SI had originally a capital less that the 
          critical amount, then they would invest in space missions, 
          but the benefit of space missions seems to come in chunks 
          (one chunk for every planet or solar system one arrived at), 
          and so there would be some overshoot: most SIs would obtain 
          a capital greater than the critical value, and they would 
          have little to lose from using the excess for new space 
          missions. f would rather have to have the shape of an 
          inverted exponential, so that for each amount of capital 
          (greater than some start-up value), a slight loss of capital 
          would reduce the computation power greatly, whereas a slight 
          increase would bring but a negligible increase. Not only 
          would the function have to be of an exponential character, 
          the constants would have to be rather great, considering 
          that the gains would be obtained after perhaps a thousand 
          years and be enjoyed for perhaps billions of years, while 
          the required investment would presumably be very small 
          compared to the SI's total capital whereas the gains could 
          be very substantial. For instance, if any considerable 
          degree of parallelization of valuable computations were 
          possible, then df/d(capital) would certainly not decrease 
          rapidly enough.
          
          If Robin's objection, that not all knowledge can be obtained 
          simply by sitting back and think (making computations), is 
          directed against Clemmensen's basic idea rather than against 
          some other more specific claim Clemmensen has made, then I 
          don't think it carries very much weight, because there is no 
          obvious reason why SIs should be interested in the detailed 
          structure of distant cosmic regions. We must not forget that 
          a mere suggestion for where the Great Filter could be, even 
          if it falls short of being a proof, would be very helpful; 
          in any case there seem to be much greater difficulties with 
          Clemmensen's proposal than that it assumes that the 
          curiosity of SIs is rather limited.
          
          Nicholas Bostrom      n.bostrom@lse.ac.uk