Re: Extropian Standpoint on Capital Punishment?

Anders Sandberg (nv91-asa@nada.kth.se)
Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:23:54 +0200 (MET DST)


On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Dr. Rich Artym wrote:

> In message <Pine.SOL.3.91N2x.960910133338.10635D-100000@bingo.nada.kth.se>,
> Anders Sandberg writes [left-right axis corrected]:
>
> > A left-right scale for collectivism vs. individualism,
> > A forward-backward scale for change vs. conservatism,
> > An up-down scale for movement towards the future (transhumanism) or towards
> > the past (i.e back to nature luddism)
> >
> > Extropianism is for example right-forward-up in this diagram.
>
> I like Anders' addition of more dimensions to the description space, but
> Max's point is very important I feel: to paraphrase it, nothing is black
> or white anymore. Anders' placement of Extropianism in the above space
> provides a very good example, because in the black-and-white world all the
> most common futurist ideologies lie at the same right-forward-up corner.
> Certainly transhumanism and Extropianism and even my TransIndividualism
> become indistinguishable under that coarse 0/1 quantisation.

Yes, but I did not imply that things are binary. Note the word "scale" in
my original post. Even the usual left-right-scale is used as a
one-dimensional way of measuring how "left" or "right" people and groups
are (The Moderates are to the right of the People's Party who are usually
to the right of the Social Democrats...). Transhumanists of different
kinds form a cloud of views in the forward-up direction.

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