Skye Howard (email@example.com)
Tue, 7 Dec 1999 22:28:43 -0800 (PST)
Yes, but which ones who were recreated would be copied
from their recreated realities for this afterlife?
Which ones would be left undisturbed, to plod their
course towards a simulated mortality? Certainly, all
of them *could* be uploaded, but there's no
definiteness to it.
- Anders Sandberg <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Skye Howard <email@example.com> writes:
> > It strikes me outright that in order to figure the
> > validity of such a civilisation's abilities I
> > have to go on a great deal of grave digging for
> > proof.... of course, the signs of uploading from a
> > civilisation advanced enough to do time travel
> > be hard to spot.
> Actually, time travel is likely not the best way to
> do it. In the
> proposals I have seen, the idea is instead to gather
> as much
> information as possible about the present state of
> the universe, and
> then extrapolate backwards. This leads to the
> problem about
> uncertainty; essentially known historical facts and
> evidence will act
> as boundary conditions on history, but there will be
> about a lot of things. One way of dealing with this
> if you have a
> *lot* of computing power (and now we are talking
> about converting most
> of the universe into computronium) is to simulate
> *all* possible
> histories. Once this is done, you can "upload"
> (rather, copy from the
> simulation) all people who have ever lived - or
> *might* have lived.
> > Then again, there are other matters to be
> > considered. For example, who would be a likely
> > for uploading?
> In the above scenario, there is no particular reason
> not to upload
> everybody. The computing power necessary to run a
> few hundred billion
> uploads is much smaller than the history simulation.
> Sure, everybody
> wants to meet Leonardo da Vinci, but in order to get
> him we need his
> completely mediocre nephew in the simulation too.
> Anders Sandberg
> Towards Ascension!
> GCS/M/S/O d++ -p+ c++++ !l u+ e++ m++ s+/+ n--- h+/*
> f+ g+ w++ t+ r+ !y
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