Re: Posthumans in Nature

D.den Otter (
Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:08:09 +0100

> From: Eliezer S. Yudkowsky <>

> I would tend to lump together group minds, human-level AIs,
> human/computer hybrids, neurohacks, extra-neuron augments, and
> genetically engineered geniuses as being "us". Not really that much of
> a difference. The basic style of cognition is pretty much the same.
> And we'll all share the same fate when the Powers show up, whatever the
> heck that hidden variable contains.

Yep. hard to become that Power.

> So far, den Otter would seem to be the only person with the
> self-consistency to admit that not wanting AIs to transcend implies not
> wanting *anyone* else to transcend.

Actually it implies not wanting anyone or anything else to have a head start. An "unfair" advantage. To transcend before you do. As it is unlikely that anyone can become a Power all by himself, synchronized ascension of the project team is the obvious solution.