> [Micah Redding noted] that the apostle Paul had a quite
> different attitude than what is called "faith" on this list. he
> encouraged people to "test all things..."
Which to me, is evidence that Paul did not write Hebrews, which in chapter 11 verse 1 says "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
Religion and science can play together if they follow these rules:
Religion is to speculate *only* on that which in principal *cannot* be tested directly or indirectly.
Science is to speculate *only* on those things which *can* be tested experimentally, even theoretically.
Each must stay in its own sandbox. Stephen Jay Gould wrote a good book about this, called Rocks of Ages. spike