Re: Socialism

Samael (Samael@dial.pipex.com)
Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:38:14 -0000

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Donaghe <tdonaghe@yahoo.com> To: extropians@extropy.com <extropians@extropy.com> Date: 11 December 1998 18:52
Subject: Re: Socialism
>
>---Samael <Samael@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mark@unicorn.com <mark@unicorn.com>
>> To: extropians@extropy.com <extropians@extropy.com>
>> Date: 11 December 1998 16:16
>> Subject: Re: Socialism
>>
>>
>> Coercion is hard in a transhuman society.
>>
>> Seems possible, although I'd be interested in seeing why you think
>this.
>>
>> >, and transhuman tech
>> >is hard to build in a socialist society; the whole aim of socialism
>is
>> >to reduce the rate of change and create a static society.
>>
>>
>> Wow! Now there's something I didn't know.
>> Where exactly did you get this from?
>>
>> Samael
>>
>Duh... If there's no such thing as money or property (as you argue)
>then there's no point in doing anything. There's no incentive. If
>everything I earn actually belongs to society, then why earn anything?
> If I am cared for by government why better myself?

Hence, the fact (as stated numerous times) that I advocate capitalism for most things.

Socialism does nto have to be used in an _exteme_ form, like most ideals it breaks down at its limits.

Samael