Re: Final Challenge to Socialists

Michael Lorrey (mike@lorrey.com)
Fri, 11 Dec 1998 09:41:30 -0500

Samael wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Donaghe <tdonaghe@yahoo.com>
> To: extropians@extropy.com <extropians@extropy.com>
> Date: 11 December 1998 01:35
> Subject: Final Challenge to Socialists
>
> >In order for socialism to exist, the government must use violence to
> >force it's citizens to pay taxes.
>
> I would contend that individual citizens refusing to pay tax is an act of
> theft against all people. (the basic items from which all else is produced
> belonging to everyone). An act of theft can be reasonably met with the
> threat of violence to return that which has been stolen.

There you go again. The basic items from which all else is produced are fairly exchanged for an individuals labor. A worker does not coerce the rest of society or other individuals to pay him or her more than is mutually agreeable, so the money a person earns is not stolen. For a government to then say it owns a percentage of that money is merely confiscation of a person's life to the whole, in which case the person is a slave to society. You are pro-slavery, I take it? You are not pro capitalist at all, merely a pathetic mercantilist/socialist.

Mike Lorrey