Re: Gingrich, Moynihan step down

Michael Lorrey (
Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:06:39 -0500

tsoon wrote:

> >Is this the same "ban cryptography, total surveillance, anarchists are
> evil"
> >David Brin who's posted here in the past, or is this another David Brin
> >I've never previously heard of? If it's the former I don't know how anyone
> >could call him a libertarian.
> I don't know about this. I probably wasn't a subscriber then. My ref to Brin
> is 2nd hand knowledge though I'm a 100% sure of the rest, so I may be
> wrong.

Brin had a rather extended and at time vile conversation with a number of us a year or so ago on this list vis a avis privacy issues in general. While his logic of making everyone accountable to everyone else due to total open survellance would definitely result in little crime or exploitation, and possibly enhance the market by fact that it would result in much better price/value signals, he is, like communists/socialists in the past and many social engineers today, trying to push a change of behavior which is totally contrary to human nature. ignoring the fact that most people LIKE their privacy, his concept has little possibility of being accepted unless the population is scared into it by a totalitarian propaganda machine........ hmmmm, that sounds familiar....

Mike Lorrey