Re: Lilliputian Posthumians

Joe Jenkins (
Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:32:41 -0700 (PDT)

---Robin Hanson <> wrote:

> I do think that it is easy to underestimate the cost of simulating a
> vivid shared natural-appearing reality,

Agreed, it is easy to underestimate.

> and that people will be
> uncomfortable with the very fact that it isn't real.

I can't prove were not already uploaded, so why should I care if we upload within the upload if nothing more than for the sake of efficiency. I suppose it might be hard to emulate, in a Turing equivalent machine, the trickery needed to give us these quantum weirdness results were starting to discover. Could it be possible that our clock is halted while our so called quantum computer does its calculations? I guess if you could prove that a truly random process exist in nature rather than a very good pseudo-random one, I would have to concede that at least we're not on a Turing equivalent. It's hard to predict irrational objections to uploading, but I'm more interested in the rational ones anyway.

Joe Jenkins

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