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Abraham Moses Genen
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Being dedicated to the future progress of humankind=20
should be the prime concern of all civilized beings.=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Goddard <igoddard@erols.com>
To: extropians@extropy.org <extropians@extropy.org>
Date: Wednesday, November 19, 1997 6:01 AM
Subject: Question Not Authoritarian Decree
>Abraham Moses Genen (futurist@frontiernet.net) wrote:
>>Dear Fellow Extropians:
>>
>>Having read Mr. Goddard's speculations, conjectures ( and possibly
>>paranoid delusions)repeatedly, may I respectfully suggest that he
>>consider reading Aristotle on scientific method followed by=20
>>Blackstone on the rules of evidence.
>
>
> IAN: It seems that every media outlet=20
> in the Western world can tell a lie,=20
> and ostensibly any number of lies,=20
> yet Abraham Moses Genen would only=20
> see wrong in he who questioned the=20
> authorities and thus was the target
> of such apparently justifed lies.
>
Wrong. - Anyone who accepts any form of authoritarian statement without =
carefully examining the evidence and the motivation of the authority is =
a fool. A fool also accepts the ravings of anyone who believes they have =
developed a perpetual motion machine. (Draw your own inference) AMG
> The authorities and media are
> free to lie at will,And are quite capable of telling the truth as =
well.=20
>but woe unto he who dares to=20
>question the divine rights Nothing makes them or anyone else "devine".
> of authority. Except the edict
> of authority without question,
> or suffer the slings of ad hominem,
> ridicule and threats of violence.=20
> Except their proclamations without
> resistance or face the retribution
> of universal slander. Such is what
> it takes to ensure unswerving=20
> obedience to authority.
> =20
> Abraham Moses Genen does not - Actually I do!
> need to question the FBI & CIA,
> for he has faith in them, I have faith in scientific method and logic =
not metaphore spouting twits
I do not. OK, what do you accept as proof??
>
> Abraham Moses Genen needs to=20
> ridicule as mentally deranged -Wrong Again - I usually confine my =
critiques to the foolish and the absurd.-=20
> he who questiond the FBI & CIA,=20
> yet I do not need to impugn=20
> the sanity of those who=20
> do not question.
>
> If we shoot arrows at that which=20
> we fear, then Abraham Moses Genen
> fears the questioning of authority.
> I believe that Extropians should not
> and do not fear but P R O M O T E=20
> the questioning of authority.
>
> My questioning of the investigation
> of TWA 800 by the authorities has=20
> been careful and responsible,=20
> reckless only to the degree=20
> I failed to realize the=20
> attacks and threats=20
> I would suffer.
>
> Where has my contribution to the=20
> process of questioning authority
> failed to meet high standards:
>=20
> http://www.erols.com/igoddard/journal.htm
>
> None can show an error, falsehood,
> or fabrication even as they sling
> mud and charges of fraud. These
> people assault not just myself,
> but the process of free inquiry.
>Nothing is more absurd than self delusion.
AMG
>
>
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>VISIT Ian Williams Goddard ----> http://www.erols.com/igoddard
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