Date sent: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:56:57 -0400 From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <retroman@turbont.net> Organization: http://www.lorrey.com http://www.artlocate.com To: extropians@extropy.com Subject: Re: violence... Send reply to: extropians@extropy.com
> QueeneMUSE@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 9/26/1999 3:15:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > retroman@turbont.net writes:
> >
> > << Which is why giving citizens the ability to carry their own guns >>
> >
> > YAWN
> > I have to laugh... when i left last year I said how funny it was that I
> > returned after two years to the same thread, and then some people said let's
> > ban gun talk, and look how effective that was!
> >
> > So .....dont you ever get tired of the same old thing over and over again?
>
> A) the gun ban was for a month. All that proved was that ExI is weak
> enough to bow to calls for censorship among the membership, and that
> there are enough members to help found the exi-freedom mail list...
> B) the fascists and those they have programmed with their propaganda
> never tire of thinking up excuses why we should surrender our freedoms,
> so why should I tire of defending our freedoms against their attacks?
> The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. I've paid that price before,
> and I will pay it again.
> C) despite the ballooning violent crime rates in Britain and Japan,
> these people still can't figure out that its people that kill people.
>
> Mike Lorrey
>
Yeah, people kill people, overwhelmingly with guns. Crime rates in
general may be on the rise in Britain and Japan, but murder rates
are far below our own.
For an impeccable reference buried in a fine article, go to
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/99may/9905fukuyama.htm