Re: Extropic Flare In NY Art Scene

Anders Sandberg (
21 Sep 1999 11:18:47 +0200

Spike Jones <> writes:

> Anders Sandberg wrote:
> > Overall, the theme of the 90s seems to have been retro. As we pass the
> > millennium there is a real chance to see people start exploring new
> > stuff rather than rehashing the last decades...
> Anders I seem to recall a [possibly mistaken] meme that there was an
> explosion of interest in long term technological projects, extropian
> thought of the day, etc, right after the dawn of this millenium. There
> was a general notion that time was coming to an end, but after
> the odometer rolled over, people realized no, this old world is here
> to stay for a while. Were not the massive cathedrals of Europe
> started in the 11th century?

I'm not sure about the extropian mood, but overall the 11th and 12th century were the high middle ages. A first technological revolution began (spread by monks) as people began to build mechanisms such as watermills and pumps. I think the major cathedrals began during this era, although cathedral building on a smaller scale had gone on for quite some time. Things went a bit downhill (a very subjective judgement of course) in the 1200's and 1300's with a worse climate and some plagues.

> >Hope you are feeling better! {8-] spike
> ...No problem, I usually get rid of colds quickly (vitamin c, lots of
> sleep and too little time to waste by being inefficient)...
> Now waaaaait a minute Anders. Linus Pauling claimed that
> vitamin c helped rid one of colds, but I understood that the
> research was never replicated under controlled conditions,
> so the whole notion was dismissed. Am I mistaken? spike

My impression (and of course I might have been infected with an erroneous meme even if I seem to recall fairly credible sources) is that it does not help you prevent colds (which was what I think Linus mainly claimed) but that it helps overcome the opportunistic bacterial infection in the throat that usually follows. Anyway, it makes for great placebo.

Anders Sandberg                                      Towards Ascension!                  
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