RE: consciousness, self, awareness....again.

Clint O'Dell (
Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:34:15 MDT

Before I elaborate I would first like to apologize for my incompleteness. Often, I think several thoughts at once and sometimes I forget to complete one idea before going on to the next.

>>(When I talk of 'consciousness', I am referring to the "here I am"
>>sensation, the source of sensations, the "soul" if you like, and nothing

When I speak of consciousness, I'm talking about the thoughts that develop in your brain. When I say a person is self aware, I'm talking about the acknowledgment of himself. His thoughts focused on his self awareness.

There is no physical soul. No specific area that you can pin point and say, "This is you". Instead, I believe, consciousness is the exchange of information between brain functions.

>>So you're saying that perhaps the distributed nature of brain function may
>>in part contribute to the platform upon which consciousness stands?
>> did you arrive at this idea? (expand)?

That is years of thought based on my observations and limited knowledge of brain functions. I'll sum up my observations and conclusions here. I'm sure you'll let me know where I'll need to expand.

When I think about how I think, this is what I find. If I think "raise my left arm" nothing happens; yet, if I will my arm to raise, then it does. 'I' have done two things. First I created a thought. I controlled what thoughts ran through my head and noticed that the thoughts were created by me. They were not created by responses to events. So I must have some free will there. Next I created an action. I moved my arm. I noticed that my arm didn't move when I created the thought command for it to move. I also noticed that I move my arm all the time without first thinking to move my arm. In conclusion 'I' must be made up of at least two parts.

To expand even furthure, I noticed that I have different types of thoughts. Sometimes I think in pictures, or, to explain more thoroughly, I see my memories. I also think in words. English to be precise. Other thoughts I have are remembering tastes, sounds, and textures. So I've come to conclusion that thought must come through memory. Because I think in different in images, sounds (such as language), tasts, and smells, and these senses have been shown to be controlled by different parts of the brain, then my thoughts must also be developed from different parts of the brain. Also different body functions have been shown to be controlled by different parts of the brain.

I can go even a step furthure. Because English is spoken language it must be recognized through the part of the brain that interprets sound. Traveling via echoic memory. Because english is also a simbolic language when written, it must be recognized throught the part of the brain that interprets images. Traveling via iconic memory. When I read a word, my brain probably matches up the lines in the letters, to a part of iconic memory that recognizes those letters. Echoic memory probably has something written at the same place because when I learned the alphabet I associated it with sounds. Or to be more clear, when someone showed my the letter 'A' I heard immediatly the word 'A'. What must happen in the brain to allow these associations is that memory from all parts of the body are written at the same time. Some parts of the body must be more sensitive than others, otherwise we would associate the movement of an arm with a word, along with a sound, etc. In martial arts you develop muscle memory by repeating body movements over and over again while imagining reactions to events. Eventualy it makes a lasting empression on the brain and you can react automaticly.

To sum up, because all parts of thought and action is controlled by different parts of the brain, and you controll all action freely without intervention from outside events and then again recognize this in echoic memory (consciousness), then the so called 'you' or 'I' must be made up of many parts of the brain. So you see, memory is actualy a very stable base for consciousness.

The library is closing and so I have to answer the following to questions tomorrow. I'll repost the entire message here complete with the bottom questions answered then. If you find any flaw or develop any questions about the about, please ask them. I'll try to answer them too at the same time.

>>So what is this original "self", disregarding the closed pointer loop
>>there be a "self" without this pointer in your model?
>>How do you view the "self" in relation to your awareness and

>>What hierarchy? What about the "self" present in each human?

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