From: John Clark <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>I don't care because I'm only interested in red, and there is only one red.
Only one _pure_ red exists, yes.
>A property is part of the thing in question, without the property you
>have the thing. A product is not part of the thing that makes it. To
>which category consciousness belongs in ask your self this question, is an
>unconscious brain in a deep sleep still a brain?
A conscious brain does not mean the same as an unconscious brain in a deep
The property of redness may derive from any number of things. So, the property (or more accurately, the epiphenomenon) of consciousness may derive from a brain or from a computational device or a holographic generator or whatever. To derive pure consciousness from a machine has value identical to that of deriving pure consciousness from a human brain, viz.., zero (none).