Re: Are guns extropian?
Fri, 10 Jul 1998 08:47:13 EDT

IMHO, (Harvey Newstrom) breathed some much-needed reason into the gun discussion we've been having here. His conclusions (it seems to me), which I heartily endorse, are that guns are tools and "are extropian" only to the extent that they are USED in a fashion that furthers the principles and values we share.

(I might quibble about Harvey's discussion of the "high" or "low" tech-ness of
"guns" in general: Within a particular engineering regime, "high tech" to me is simply the best possible solution to a particular engineering problem. Thus, given a praticular set of operational specifications, a darn good argument can be made that a S&W .44 revolver, employing a design little changed in 100 years, is "high tech.)

The gun discussion tends to come and go here in the context of discussions of individual liberty as a value in society. It IS a "hot button" issue for many libertarians in the U.S., so even relatively casual remarks can initiate a discussion of individual ownership and control of weapons. We've probably had quite enough gun talk here for a while, but I would urge my fellow gun-owners to consider how the issue is perceived by folks from outside the U.S., and to try to be diplomatic in their rhetoric: What may seem self-evident and basic to someone grounded in U.S. history and society can seem shocking and threatening to others.

	Greg Burch     <>----<>
	   Attorney  :::  Director, Extropy Institute  :::  Wilderness Guide   -or-
	           "Good ideas are not adopted automatically.  They must
	              be driven into practice with courageous impatience."