Re: Are guns extropian?
Fri, 10 Jul 1998 05:41:00 -0700 (PDT)

Max M [] wrote:
>One thing is for shure. For most Europeans this gun debate is a complete
>turn-off, and can be a very negative factor when reading this list. There is
>far to much debate on this list concerning guns!!!!

Which is one reason why I don't think most Europeans understand the implications of what we're talking about. Seems to me that guns are the litmus test of whether you've really considered the things we talk about on this list. If you're scared of people having guns, then how are you going to handle nanotech, SIs, etc; technologies which are far more of a threat than a wimpy little gun ever will be?

>Most Europeans doesn't have it and doesn't want it
>and don't se the gun debate as a problem at all because it doesn't exist and
>no one miss it.

No, most Europeans just want to ban gun ownership outside government and hope the problem goes away; as we've seen on this list before, many European subscribers want to do the same for the other technologies we talk about.

>Just a Danish/Scandinavian/European POW.

I was under the impression that several Scandinavian countries had militias who kept automatic weapons at home?


P.S. And if Europe's so great, why is it that suicide rates are typically at least twice as high as America? This is another issue which is ignored in these discussions about reducing freedom to save lives; the freer people are, the less they tend to kill themselves.