Re: Poverty youth ( Was: Age and violence stats)

Randy Smith (
Wed, 01 Jul 1998 17:25:38 GMT

On Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:21:41 EDT, you wrote:

>In a message dated 6/30/98 5:19:37 PM, retroman wrote:
>>There is also the factor that crime tends to be higher in welfare states that
>>limit support to males beyond childhood. Once the boys grow up and can't live
>>the welfare trough, which they have been raised to beleive they are
>>to, they certainly are pissed.
> Look, "they" are far more than childishly "pissed".
> What "they" are is - untrained, uneducated, unskilled and illiterate - we are
>talking seriously unempowered, unfed, molested, ill-clothed, peer-pressured
>into gangs (don't even get me started on that) and 99% possiblity of drug use
>and arrests by about fifteen.
> Unprepared - by the Darwinistic environement they sum up from - to do much
>good for themselves.
> Many choose crime OVER welfare, not because "they" were rejected by it - more
>likely because 1) they are suicidial or 2) they have too much indiginous
>pride to eat out of the gov'ts piggy "trough".

Actually here in America the welfare state is primarily set up for the single mother. A single, young male has a very hard time getting welfare