John K. Clark, your defense is appreciated.  Thank you.
However, this threatens to become a flame war.  If you respond, please do so
off the list, as I am doing.  I don't believe Mcelligott said anything that
would be taken seriously enough to require a response, particularly
considering your relative tenure as Extropians.
Mcelligott:
Thank you for pointing out that I used fighting words.  This I noticed, albeit
too late.  I consider myself lucky that I made that mistake over the Internet
rather than in person.  I have a saying:  I can make any mistake, as long as I
only make it once.
I suggest that *both* of you learn from this and not repeat my mistake.
Thank you.
Mcelligott should have quoted the crash-phrase rather than the tears-phrase
in his reply.  A lot of people thought he was saying that sentimentality
would get me held upside-down over the toilet.  It did seem like a bit of a
non-sequitur; I had no idea what he was talking about.
The part about being 18, I am responding to off the list.
(He's in trouble...)
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         sentience@pobox.com      Eliezer S. Yudkowsky
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