Re: "Attack on Civilized World" answer "Defense of USA and USA citizens"

From: dudescholar@yahoo.com
Date: Wed Sep 12 2001 - 20:59:17 MDT


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dickey, Michael F" <michael_f_dickey@groton.pfizer.com>
To: <extropians@extropy.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: "Attack on Civilized World" answer "Defense of USA and USA
citizens"

> I dont think anyone is saying that the tens of thousands of doomed people
> who had to get up and work thier crappy jobs like everyone else in the
world
> deserved to be burned, suffocated, or crushed to death at the WTC, or the
> people on the airplanes going home to see loved ones or working thier
crappy
> jobs to feed thier families deserved to be slashed, crushed, burned, or
> killed in general. No one is saying that these people deserved to die.
If
> we want to combat terrorism, there is no way you can lock down the state
> enough to ever make it safe. No amount of Xray machines, face scanners,
ID
> cards, barcodes of foreheads, or DNA tags will ever make it completely
safe.
> You have to remove the incentive people have to be terrorist. In this
case,
> it is national hatred for the US, this hatred comes from the US policing
of
> the entire world. Bin Ladden specifically said that every US citizen is a
> valid military target in response to the US's military involvement in
> palestine. The US was not attacked because 'it was a beacon of freedom'
as
> BUsh said so melodramatically, it was attacked because we have been doing
> things in other peoples countries to piss them off. Stop pissing these
> other countries off (that is, remove the military presence which is a
direct
> represnetation of the US as a country) and no longer does anyone breed
> hatred of the US and want to kill every working US citizen. Has Sweden
ever
> been terrorist attacked? The only way to get rid of terrorism is to
remove
> the incentive people have to commit it.
>
> Michael

I'm trying to consider what items to list that Americans and/or it's
government should stop doing to appease or prevent Islamic terrorism.

1) Provide no humanitarian or military support to Israel?
2) Stop trading with Israel?
3) Revoke American recognition of the State of Israel?
4) Kick all Jews out of America?

A list of all the requirements to appease terrorists could be quite long and
ugly.

How would you respond to a demand by terrorist that we replace American
government and laws for Islamic fundaments ones or for such legal changes as
making it illegal for women to work or to be seen without an escort or veil?

While I'm convinced that Israel has played downright dirty and hid it well,
I'm not convinced that anything that Americans could do would satisfy
terrorists short of placing terrorists feet on American necks. Killing
innocent people is not a cry for justice, it's a cry for power.

I find very reasonable Samuel P. Huntington's argument in his book _The
Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order_ that the large
generation of disenfranchised youth within Islamic countries as the primary
source of government instability there, terrorism inclusive.

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Steve - dudescholar@yahoo.com



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